Angel with lump on upper mouth

My freshwater angle has had a growth on its upper lip for about a year.
(Yes, shame on me for not dealing with it sooner). The growth seems to
be getting bigger lately and in the last month the fish hasn't been eating
much. It's a mostly black angel, and the growth is greyish black and
currently about the size of a pencil eraser. Ideas on what this might be
and how to treat it? Fungus maybe? It doesn't look fuzzy...

Sounds like a tumor thing.
Some of my scats over the years have got chin bumps.
Not sure if the same thing but a search on that could pull up a treatment.
Aside from looking horrible I assumed it was relatively harmless.
In your case perhaps not so.
Good Luck!


"BDB" wrote in message
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My freshwater angle has had a growth on its upper lip for about a year.
(Yes, shame on me for not dealing with it sooner). The growth seems to
be getting bigger lately and in the last month the fish hasn't been eating
much. It's a mostly black angel, and the growth is greyish black and
currently about the size of a pencil eraser. Ideas on what this might be
and how to treat it? Fungus maybe? It doesn't look fuzzy...

On May 3, 5:07�pm, BDB wrote:
My freshwater angle has had a growth on its upper lip for about a year.
(Yes, shame on me for not dealing with it sooner). *The growth seems to
be getting bigger lately and in the last month the fish hasn't been eating
much. *It's a mostly black angel, and the growth is greyish black and
currently about the size of a pencil eraser. *Ideas on what this might be
and how to treat it? *Fungus maybe? *It doesn't look fuzzy...

It sounds to me like it's a tumor.
The fish has already had it for a year and since there are no other
symptoms other than growth in size, there's not much you can do.
I've had several fish live with growing tumors for many years.
It might not look so pretty in another year or so. I've seen fish with
enormous tumors.

Pretty big call for no pic and not being able to put yuor hand / eyes
on the fish ain't it Tynk.........Nothing like a shotgun
diagnosis.....yet you all come down on carol for doing the same.How
hipocritical of you Tynk!

On 22 May 2007 07:31:13 -0700, Tynk wrote:

On May 3, 5:07?pm, BDB wrote:
My freshwater angle has had a growth on its upper lip for about a year.
(Yes, shame on me for not dealing with it sooner). he growth seems to
be getting bigger lately and in the last month the fish hasn't been eating
much. t's a mostly black angel, and the growth is greyish black and
currently about the size of a pencil eraser. deas on what this might be
and how to treat it? ungus maybe? t doesn't look fuzzy...

It sounds to me like it's a tumor.
The fish has already had it for a year and since there are no other
symptoms other than growth in size, there's not much you can do.
I've had several fish live with growing tumors for many years.
It might not look so pretty in another year or so. I've seen fish with
enormous tumors.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

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From: Pondmeister
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:31:58 -0500
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Pretty big call for no pic and not being able to put yuor hand / eyes
on the fish ain't it Tynk.........Nothing like a shotgun
diagnosis.....yet you all come down on carol for doing the same.How
hipocritical of you Tynk


Well well well, Roy.
Now comes the same treatment towards me as you did to Carol.
Why haven't you said the same to Swarvegorilla? They said basically
the same thing as I did, yet you made no comment to them.
That's your M.O. though. Come to think of it, Carol did that a lot
too.
Strange how since you and Carol have quit going after each other,
you've turned on me and the folks over on the moderated pond group and
Carol hasn't even posted here anymore. Yes, strange indeed.
As for my comments on what I think the fish's problem is, yes. I do
believe by what the original poster described, how long it's been
there without change other than size, no other symptoms, etc., that it
sounds to me like a tumor.
Now unless the poster wants to take it to a fish vet and have it
removed, there isn't much they can do about it.
I'm sure most seasoned aquarists reading that original posts would
have come to the same conclusion as I did.
However, you want you to make the post about me. Just like you did for
years with Carol.
I have all along wanted folks to talk about fish here and not Carol or
you.
You got your feelings hurt over on the moderated pond group and now
you are having a temper tantrum (quite similar to Carol's I might add)
and are taking it out on me (for what I still can't figure out as I
haven't done anything to you).
I've tried so hard with you. Like I said before, I'm done trying. It's
too much work, and for what? Nothing.

Still horny huh TYnk,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.try getting a big baseball bat
for a dildo....Gill says it works wonders for getting your self off
with on those hard to cum days!

On 23 May 2007 08:10:21 -0700, Tynk wrote:


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From: Pondmeister
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:31:58 -0500
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Subject: Angel with lump on upper mouth
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Pretty big call for no pic and not being able to put yuor hand / eyes
on the fish ain't it Tynk.........Nothing like a shotgun
diagnosis.....yet you all come down on carol for doing the same.How
hipocritical of you Tynk


Well well well, Roy.
Now comes the same treatment towards me as you did to Carol.
Why haven't you said the same to Swarvegorilla? They said basically
the same thing as I did, yet you made no comment to them.
That's your M.O. though. Come to think of it, Carol did that a lot
too.
Strange how since you and Carol have quit going after each other,
you've turned on me and the folks over on the moderated pond group and
Carol hasn't even posted here anymore. Yes, strange indeed.
As for my comments on what I think the fish's problem is, yes. I do
believe by what the original poster described, how long it's been
there without change other than size, no other symptoms, etc., that it
sounds to me like a tumor.
Now unless the poster wants to take it to a fish vet and have it
removed, there isn't much they can do about it.
I'm sure most seasoned aquarists reading that original posts would
have come to the same conclusion as I did.
However, you want you to make the post about me. Just like you did for
years with Carol.
I have all along wanted folks to talk about fish here and not Carol or
you.
You got your feelings hurt over on the moderated pond group and now
you are having a temper tantrum (quite similar to Carol's I might add)
and are taking it out on me (for what I still can't figure out as I
haven't done anything to you).
I've tried so hard with you. Like I said before, I'm done trying. It's
too much work, and for what? Nothing.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Good old usenet!
OK so it's a slow growing bump on a fish that is a black colour morph.
It's a safe bet it's a tumor really.
Considering fish like black livebearers are studied because of their
frequent tumors and their unholy ability to go on with life while covered in
them...........
Then really whatever BDB does.... it will have the same end.
Take it too a vet or op and super glue it up yaself.
Or let the thing take it's course, which with the cease of feeding it
sounded like it had.
A vet is still an option, a public aquaria north of here treated a fish with
radiation therapy to cure cancer.
But it's kinda bleedin' edge ****e so if ya don't have wads dosh..... I'd
be sharpening the brain spike.
Then again thats how I usually start the day anyway.


Unfortunately have so many of you killfiled, these threads are warped and
twisted.
So much excess venom. Oh to harness it and set ya to work in da fish shed.
Bit of a worry to see you hanging with frank tho.....
bit of a new low, and enuf for me to unsub this group
Later peeps
has been sweet.



"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
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Sounds like a tumor thing.
Some of my scats over the years have got chin bumps.
Not sure if the same thing but a search on that could pull up a treatment.
Aside from looking horrible I assumed it was relatively harmless.
In your case perhaps not so.
Good Luck!


"BDB" wrote in message
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My freshwater angle has had a growth on its upper lip for about a year.
(Yes, shame on me for not dealing with it sooner). The growth seems to
be getting bigger lately and in the last month the fish hasn't been
eating
much. It's a mostly black angel, and the growth is greyish black and
currently about the size of a pencil eraser. Ideas on what this might be
and how to treat it? Fungus maybe? It doesn't look fuzzy...

On Jun 1, 9:36?pm, "swarvegorilla" wrote:

Unfortunately have so many of you killfiled, these threads are warped and
twisted.
So much excess venom. Oh to harness it and set ya to work in da fish shed.
Bit of a worry to see you hanging with frank tho.....
bit of a new low, and enuf for me to unsub this group
Later peeps
has been sweet.

Hasta La Vista!
Don't let the door hit ya in the ...........