Sand on the bottom..........

On Oct 26, 3:39 pm, (Richard Sexton) wrote:
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Reel McKoi wrote:

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I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish.
What fish are in your aquariums?

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Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras"
and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank.

I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails.
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Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website?

I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since about 93 or so.
It says that on the front page ofhttp://aquaria.net

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I've had mixed results with sand. If it's too fine in an unplanted
tank, it can compact. Forgetting the name (what is "play" sand will
vary store to store), avoid really fine sands and look for coarse.
Malaysian Trumpet snails can be useful to churn sand. I've got a 120g
with Profile brand sand. The plants love it but I find it's a little
too light for my liking. I can live with the losses during vacuuming,
but I'll need to reduce the water's turbulence, so it should work very
well in many applications.

I'm not keen on white sand as it shows debris too quickly and seems to
foster more algae (more reflected light at the sand's surface?). I
personally don't think that fish are very comfortable with too much
light coming UP at them. Highlights their presence to airborn
predators (try explaining to them there are no birds in your house ;~)

NetMax

Hi..

NetMax wrote:

@ Richard:
I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is
mine and has been since about 93 or so.
It says that on the front page ofhttp://aquaria.net

;-)

@ NM:
I've had mixed results with sand. If it's too fine in an unplanted
tank, it can compact.

Well but compact sand won't be a prob for the most useful aquarium plants..

Forgetting the name (what is "play" sand will vary store to store)

ACK..

, avoid really fine sands and look for coarse.

ACK..

Tried out filter sand - pool supply..?

Malaysian Trumpet snails can be useful to churn sand.

Hm.., have had several cold water tanks with fine sand but no MTS (never had
any probs)..

The plants love it but I find it's a little
too light for my liking.

River sands weren't too bride..

I'm not keen on white sand as it shows debris too quickly

Hm.., no prob for fine to coarse sand..

and seems to
foster more algae (more reflected light at the sand's surface?).

In the beginning - and until some floating plants might reduce this effect
to an acceptable limit..

I
personally don't think that fish are very comfortable with too much
light coming UP at them. Highlights their presence to airborn
predators

Jein..

(try explaining to them there are no birds in your house ;~)

NM, you're a real pet fish whisperer..! :-)

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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
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Reel McKoi wrote:

"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
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In article ,
Reel McKoi wrote:
I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish.
What fish are in your aquariums?

http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg
http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg
http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/
http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/
http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg
http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg
http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg

Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras"
and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank.

I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails.
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Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website?

I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since
about 93 or so.
It says that on the front page of http://aquaria.net
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Sorry, that's the site I meant. I'm planning to spend some time there right
now. :-)
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I'm not keen on white sand as it shows debris too quickly and seems to
foster more algae (more reflected light at the sand's surface?). I
personally don't think that fish are very comfortable with too much
light coming UP at them. Highlights their presence to airborn
predators (try explaining to them there are no birds in your house ;~)
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Lowe's carries what's called a coarse builders sand which is a brown color.
It's also called "all purpose" sand. The play sand here is so fine it's
almost powdery. I would be afraid a child would inhale the power and damage
it's lungs.
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"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 3:52?pm, "Reel McKoi" wrote:
Lowe's carries what's called a coarse builders sand which is a brown
color.
It's also called "all purpose" sand. The play sand here is so fine it's
almost powdery. I would be afraid a child would inhale the power and
damage
it's lungs.
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Me too.
Having asthma, it would be something that affect me right away.

It made me sneeze. I have to use it in my cactus potting mix when it's very
calm outside. I then mix up a large batch of sandy soil for them and keep
it damp to keep down the sand dust. I can't believe they sell this for
children to play in.

I remember as a kid playing in sand that was very dusty. Not a good
combo.
It always had to be wetted down with water, but some places had sand
that was obviously better and had hardly any dust.

The playgrounds where I grew up only had sand at the bottom of slides and
under swings. We didn't play in it. Never thought to play in it.

Niether of my kids liked to play in sand, so I wasn't about to push
it. lol

If they decide they want to... get the coarse builders sand. Less fines and
dust. I think I'm going to use it when I set up the other 55g tank. I'll
give it a try. I'll mix it with the fine brown gravel from Lowe's. I did
buy some more fish and spent 9 hours acclimating them. I'll be diluting my
tap water (liquid limestone rocks) with rain water from now on. I skipped
the neon's though until I can get enough rain water to get the PH below 7.8
and the hardness lower. The Sherpae tetras and redtail rasboras adapted
great. The clowns have learned to come to the top to eat so are doing fine.
:-)
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I think the idea solution for a light coloured sand is availible from pool
supply shops as filter sand.

good size and its clean.

Bran