New discuss tank.

Reading these threads, is like a recipe for disaster.
And adding chemicals, is like adding salt to the brew.

Discus, are very specialised, some people have no trouble with them and some
people have no end of trouble with them.

You say you have a tank up and working, cycled, acclimatised, or whatever.
What's wrong with talking half the water out of that tank and sticking it
in the new tank, then over a period of time add more water , until the tank
is full.. As for talking dirty water from a filter, and adding it to a
clean system,, Your Dreaming...

One rule, If you don,t have, or can't acquire natural "Sof****er" don,t
bother with Discus. Once you start adding chemicals to water, you can NEVER
remove it.

And if the Discus, loose colour, or go dark, your going to loose them,
there going to die, your wasting your money. simply because your conditions
are wrong for Discus
bassett

"Gary" wrote in message
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"Mary Burns" wrote in message
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When I cycled my Jewul vision 260, I squeezed a sponge from my other
juwel 96 litre into the internal filter box every other day, and it
cycled in 2 weeks. The first week showed very little, with nitrite just
under 1 in second week, and nitrates on day 13. I had about 8" of fish (2
platies and 6x 2 month fry) They are thriving, and it has been running
for 4 months now with 21 platies (various ages), 2 angels and 3 cories/3
ottos. I think Juwel tanks are excellent and nitrate reads around 10 all
the time with 50" of fish, and plants are doing very well with the
original 2x38 watt tubes. I know people recommend more watts per gallon,
but it's going well so far. Mary


Wow, you have the same two tanks as me lol
Does squeezing the filter from the Rekord to the Vision, will this have
any negative effect on the 96 litre?

Also, when did you put in the first fish?

Regards,

Gary.
PS - The Vision 260 looks wonderful, a very nice tank!!
I needed my 96 litre to remain stable as 2 week old platy fry were in there
as well, so I started the 260 litre from scratch,new gravel,ornaments and
plants. I left it 2 days for the water to clear (even though gravel
thoroughly washed) and get to correct temp. Platies are reasonably hardy,
and I chose 2 adults who had not cycled my first tank (they were added 3
weeks later) and the first 6 fry who were just under 1". Squeezing a sponge
every other day had no effect on the 96 litre. I added more plants after 3
weeks as algae was developing quite quickly, which is now sorted.
I don't know anything about discus, so can't advise with them.
It is a lovely tank, and my platies use every inch of it.Mary

I second that. Please cycle with amonia. Even if they don't die during
cycling, the fishes scales will be permantly burned. It would be similar to
you swimming for a long time in a pool with lots of chlorine.

Read http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_fishless.php

Duzzie

"Toni" wrote in message
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"Gary" wrote in message
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Thanks Toni.

You are keeping:
Blue Diamond discus
Cardinal tetras
Diamond tetras
Harlequin Rasboras
Corydoras
Otocinclus
Farlowellas


What is the best starter fish? If I am to cycle the tank with fish,
which
is best to go with? Also, do the cope with the higher water temp? In
an
earlier post, it was mentioned that 82-84 is the ideal discus temp.



I keep the tank at 86ºF.
All the other fish went in months before the Discus- they really need an
established tank especially if you intend trying them in a community
setting. It's not the easiest thing to do. Cut your teeth on the others
and
make sure you have things down pat before you invest in Discus.

I do *not* recommend cycling with fish. There are too many easy
alternatives
that do not cause pain and suffering to living things. IMO cycling with
cocktail shrimp or straight ammonia is the best way.
http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycle2.html


--
Toni
http://www.cearbhaill.com/discus.htm

They need a lot of care and lots of water, that is a lot of changes commitment. You need to consider in the tank is going to go, because they are easily frightened and can damage your tank. You need to learn a lot about water parameters and how to maintain.