Angel fish foreplay or fighting?

I have a pair of Angels in my tank... only two of them as they have
mated and layed eggs in the past on several occasions. Anyway, lately
the one that I believe is the male keeps picking on the female and
driving her into the corner of the tank or just chasing her all over
the place when she's out and about... this happens often. Are they
getting ready to mate again? What's going on? I don't recall
noticing this happening the other times. Any input is always
appreciate.

Laura

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: (Laura Dawson)
Date: 2/20/2004 10:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I have a pair of Angels in my tank... only two of them as they have
mated and layed eggs in the past on several occasions. Anyway, lately
the one that I believe is the male keeps picking on the female and
driving her into the corner of the tank or just chasing her all over
the place when she's out and about... this happens often. Are they
getting ready to mate again? What's going on? I don't recall
noticing this happening the other times. Any input is always
appreciate.

Laura

Often a "proven pair" (have layed eggs before and are fertilized), will battle
a bit before spawning again. This is to assure that their choice of mate is
still worthy. If the female is not fighting back at all and is just running
away everytime...she may not be "worthy" anymoe and he is trying to drive her
away (in order to look for a new).
Do you know about how old these fish are?

Suggestions on the optimal manner to care for angel eggs laid in a
community tank...my pair mated on a sword plant leaf



On 21 Feb 2004 17:42:43 GMT, (TYNK 7) wrote:

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: (Laura Dawson)
Date: 2/20/2004 10:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I have a pair of Angels in my tank... only two of them as they have
mated and layed eggs in the past on several occasions. Anyway, lately
the one that I believe is the male keeps picking on the female and
driving her into the corner of the tank or just chasing her all over
the place when she's out and about... this happens often. Are they
getting ready to mate again? What's going on? I don't recall
noticing this happening the other times. Any input is always
appreciate.

Laura

Often a "proven pair" (have layed eggs before and are fertilized), will battle
a bit before spawning again. This is to assure that their choice of mate is
still worthy. If the female is not fighting back at all and is just running
away everytime...she may not be "worthy" anymoe and he is trying to drive her
away (in order to look for a new).
Do you know about how old these fish are?

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: jefferson
Date: 2/21/2004 5:29 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Suggestions on the optimal manner to care for angel eggs laid in a
community tank...my pair mated on a sword plant leaf

Tell me:
Tank size.
Temp.
Tankmates?
Do you have another tank to use?
if so,what size?
Have you raised small fry before?
You can either let them raise the fry or you can.
First tell me the answersto my questions and I can help you more so after. = )

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Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: (Laura Dawson)
Date: 2/20/2004 10:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I have a pair of Angels in my tank... only two of them as they have
mated and layed eggs in the past on several occasions. Anyway, lately
the one that I believe is the male keeps picking on the female and
driving her into the corner of the tank or just chasing her all over
the place when she's out and about... this happens often. Are they
getting ready to mate again? What's going on? I don't recall
noticing this happening the other times. Any input is always
appreciate.

Laura

Often a "proven pair" (have layed eggs before and are fertilized), will battle
a bit before spawning again. This is to assure that their choice of mate is
still worthy. If the female is not fighting back at all and is just running
away everytime...she may not be "worthy" anymoe and he is trying to drive her
away (in order to look for a new).
Do you know about how old these fish are?


These are younger fish... I bought them not more than six months ago
and they were the size of about a quarter... now the male is about 4"
long. Just a few weeks ago they were doing the "kissing" thing and
all of that so I am really hoping that they aren't going to quit
laying eggs... I'm in the process of getting a new tank ready to move
my other fish so they can have the tank to themselves... they are the
only 2 angels I have and I would love to actually have angel babies
eventually.

Laura

I have 2 pairs of angels-the younger and less connected pair mated
(Apparently only seemed less connected...). I have a 110g tall-lots
of plants and lots of juvenile botias. There are 2 pairs of dwarf
cichlids and a pair of dwarf gouramies. 4 active pleco's that seem
quite content with a weekly slice of cucumber. 6 aeneas cats-several
danios and 5 aussie rainbows. I keep the temp at about 78. Water
changes bi-monthly. Hardness is 8ppm. ph is around 7.7 and ranges
+/- .2.
I have another tank-I moved the leaf witht he eggs to that location
using water from the "mother" tank. I added m-blue. My result was
all eggs turned white and were tossed.
I wonder what I might try differently to preserve the eggs. I think
the mother tank with all the loaches is a hopeless environment. I
plan to add a 2x24" piece of glass to the tank as an alternative
breeding medium. Other suggestions are sure welcome!
j


On 22 Feb 2004 02:01:55 GMT, (TYNK 7) wrote:

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: jefferson
Date: 2/21/2004 5:29 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Suggestions on the optimal manner to care for angel eggs laid in a
community tank...my pair mated on a sword plant leaf

Tell me:
Tank size.
Temp.
Tankmates?
Do you have another tank to use?
if so,what size?
Have you raised small fry before?
You can either let them raise the fry or you can.
First tell me the answersto my questions and I can help you more so after. = )

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: jefferson
Date: 2/22/2004 6:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I have 2 pairs of angels-the younger and less connected pair mated
(Apparently only seemed less connected...). I have a 110g tall-lots
of plants and lots of juvenile botias. There are 2 pairs of dwarf
cichlids and a pair of dwarf gouramies. 4 active pleco's that seem
quite content with a weekly slice of cucumber. 6 aeneas cats-several
danios and 5 aussie rainbows. I keep the temp at about 78. Water
changes bi-monthly. Hardness is 8ppm. ph is around 7.7 and ranges
+/- .2.
I have another tank-I moved the leaf witht he eggs to that location
using water from the "mother" tank. I added m-blue. My result was
all eggs turned white and were tossed.
I wonder what I might try differently to preserve the eggs. I think
the mother tank with all the loaches is a hopeless environment. I
plan to add a 2x24" piece of glass to the tank as an alternative
breeding medium. Other suggestions are sure welcome!

When you transfered the eggs to another tank...did you have an airstone running
*near*, not under, the eggs?
I ask because you didn't mention it.
This simulates the parent's fanning of the eggs. A very important part of the
hatching process.
Also, if all eggs turned opaque right away, they weren't viable (fertilized).
Often 2 females will go throught he motions of spawning, even laying eggs...but
of course they're not going to be fertilized.
Did you watch them spawn? Are you sure these 2 yongsters were m & f?

Thanks for the note-
I had an airestone under the pane of glass I attached the leaf to -
water circulated but didn't disrupt the leaf\eggs. the eggs turned
white from 2-4 days. I believe the pair are a "pair" but I didn't
watch the breeding event and I was very surprised at the occurrance.

Are there alternatives to meth blue?
j


On 23 Feb 2004 15:22:44 GMT, (TYNK 7) wrote:

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: jefferson
Date: 2/22/2004 6:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I have 2 pairs of angels-the younger and less connected pair mated
(Apparently only seemed less connected...). I have a 110g tall-lots
of plants and lots of juvenile botias. There are 2 pairs of dwarf
cichlids and a pair of dwarf gouramies. 4 active pleco's that seem
quite content with a weekly slice of cucumber. 6 aeneas cats-several
danios and 5 aussie rainbows. I keep the temp at about 78. Water
changes bi-monthly. Hardness is 8ppm. ph is around 7.7 and ranges
+/- .2.
I have another tank-I moved the leaf witht he eggs to that location
using water from the "mother" tank. I added m-blue. My result was
all eggs turned white and were tossed.
I wonder what I might try differently to preserve the eggs. I think
the mother tank with all the loaches is a hopeless environment. I
plan to add a 2x24" piece of glass to the tank as an alternative
breeding medium. Other suggestions are sure welcome!

When you transfered the eggs to another tank...did you have an airstone running
*near*, not under, the eggs?
I ask because you didn't mention it.
This simulates the parent's fanning of the eggs. A very important part of the
hatching process.
Also, if all eggs turned opaque right away, they weren't viable (fertilized).
Often 2 females will go throught he motions of spawning, even laying eggs...but
of course they're not going to be fertilized.
Did you watch them spawn? Are you sure these 2 yongsters were m & f?

Subject: Angel fish foreplay or fighting?
From: jefferson
Date: 2/23/2004 5:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Thanks for the note-
I had an airestone under the pane of glass I attached the leaf to -
water circulated but didn't disrupt the leaf\eggs. the eggs turned
white from 2-4 days. I believe the pair are a "pair" but I didn't
watch the breeding event and I was very surprised at the occurrance.

Are there alternatives to meth blue?
j

You let the parents keep them clean (the fanning and picking off debris).