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Old June 14th 04, 01:03 PM
Mary E. Hill
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Default algea control again:)

I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because of the tank size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two african dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter built into the hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a partial water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day and not on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic plant (which I'll now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary


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Old June 14th 04, 01:57 PM
Rick
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"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
...
I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because of the tank size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two african dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter built into the

hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a partial water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day and not on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic plant (which I'll

now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary



a bit of algae like you describe is normal. Scrub it off with a soft pad and
if necessary periodically bleach the plastic plants.

Rick


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Old June 14th 04, 01:59 PM
Mary E. Hill
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Default algea control again:)


"Rick" wrote in message
...

"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
...
I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because of the tank

size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two african dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter built into the

hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a partial water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day and not on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic plant (which I'll

now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary



a bit of algae like you describe is normal. Scrub it off with a soft pad

and
if necessary periodically bleach the plastic plants.

Rick


The 12 gal tank at home has never shown a single sign of algae like this. So
if I simply scrub it off, it won't get out of control? Really? I hope it's
that simple

Thanks,
Mary


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Old June 14th 04, 04:10 PM
Gail Futoran
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Default algea control again:)

"Mary E. Hill" wrote in
message ...
I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because

of the tank size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two

african dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter

built into the hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a

partial water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day

and not on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic

plant (which I'll now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary


Mary - I have an Eclipse 6 with a female Betta
and 4-6 otocinclus and some number of snails,
along with Java Fern & other live plants,
driftwood, some ornaments and gravel, bringing
the actual water capacity down to what yours is,
probably. My lights stay on 12 hours daily
(on a timer).

I think you could easily add 2-4 otos and they do
a nice job with the algae (but not all kinds). I also
feed them additionally, an algae tablet every other
day, on the offhand chance they take care of too
much algae!

Otos stay small, they are herbivores and
usually don't move around much (unless you
try to find them!), so they're not going to add
much to the bioload of your tank. I do a PWC
about every two weeks, also.

They can be sensitive to changes in water so
I usually take my time about introducing them
to a tank, gradually adding tank water to their
bag over a hour period or so.

Gail


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Old June 14th 04, 05:39 PM
Mary E. Hill
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Default algea control again:)


"Gail Futoran" wrote in message
...
"Mary E. Hill" wrote in
message ...
I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because

of the tank size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two

african dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter

built into the hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a

partial water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day

and not on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic

plant (which I'll now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary


Mary - I have an Eclipse 6 with a female Betta
and 4-6 otocinclus and some number of snails,
along with Java Fern & other live plants,
driftwood, some ornaments and gravel, bringing
the actual water capacity down to what yours is,
probably. My lights stay on 12 hours daily
(on a timer).

I think you could easily add 2-4 otos and they do
a nice job with the algae (but not all kinds). I also
feed them additionally, an algae tablet every other
day, on the offhand chance they take care of too
much algae!

Otos stay small, they are herbivores and
usually don't move around much (unless you
try to find them!), so they're not going to add
much to the bioload of your tank. I do a PWC
about every two weeks, also.

They can be sensitive to changes in water so
I usually take my time about introducing them
to a tank, gradually adding tank water to their
bag over a hour period or so.

Gail



Gail, thanks for the reply! If I go to the LFS and say, "I'd like to buy 2
otos...", is there any chance they'll not know what I'm referring to
exactly? What's the exact name I should be looking for?

Thanks

Mary


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Old June 14th 04, 07:09 PM
Gail Futoran
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Default algea control again:)

"Mary E. Hill" wrote

Gail, thanks for the reply! If I go to the LFS and say,

"I'd like to buy 2
otos...", is there any chance they'll not know what I'm

referring to
exactly? What's the exact name I should be looking for?

Thanks

Mary


Otocinclus. I would start with 3 because otos
tend to suffer from "sudden oto death syndrome".
They are bit sensitive, like some tetras, but I've
found them so useful I just add more until I
get a (relatively) stable population. Like any
fish they'll occasionally die for no apparent
reason, but not at an unusual rate, all else
being equal.

Here's a link I found useful:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebI...cinclusart.htm

I've only ever seen the common ones locally (gray
with black stripe).

And as far as "soft, acidic" water goes, the
water in my tanks is moderately hard.

Gail
near San Antonio TX


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Old June 14th 04, 08:46 PM
Mary E. Hill
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Default algea control again:)


"Gail Futoran" wrote in message
...
"Mary E. Hill" wrote

Gail, thanks for the reply! If I go to the LFS and say,

"I'd like to buy 2
otos...", is there any chance they'll not know what I'm

referring to
exactly? What's the exact name I should be looking for?

Thanks

Mary


Otocinclus. I would start with 3 because otos
tend to suffer from "sudden oto death syndrome".
They are bit sensitive, like some tetras, but I've
found them so useful I just add more until I
get a (relatively) stable population. Like any
fish they'll occasionally die for no apparent
reason, but not at an unusual rate, all else
being equal.

Here's a link I found useful:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebI...cinclusart.htm

I've only ever seen the common ones locally (gray
with black stripe).

And as far as "soft, acidic" water goes, the
water in my tanks is moderately hard.

Gail
near San Antonio TX



Thanks for the link. It said 1 or 2 per 10 gallons...I'm only working with a
5-gallon tank. And it already has the two African drawf frogs who like to
hang out on the bottom. Can I buy just one of these (and others pending
survival...) and have it be ok by itself?


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Old June 14th 04, 09:25 PM
Rick
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Default algea control again:)


"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
...

"Rick" wrote in message
...

"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
...
I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because of the tank

size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two african

dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter built into the

hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a partial water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day and not on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic plant (which

I'll
now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary



a bit of algae like you describe is normal. Scrub it off with a soft pad

and
if necessary periodically bleach the plastic plants.

Rick


The 12 gal tank at home has never shown a single sign of algae like this.

So
if I simply scrub it off, it won't get out of control? Really? I hope

it's
that simple

Thanks,
Mary



does this tank get more light than the one at home?. Perhaps it is located
in an area that gets more direct outside light. Many factors can cause algae
such as too much light, overfeeding etc however I have 36 tanks and all have
live plants, some have a few plastic (in those tanks where the fish eat the
plants) and all have some form of algae. You can experiment by cutting down
the the amount of time the light is on and the amount you feed, do more
frequent small water changes etc and it may help somewhat. Otto's are
excellent algae eaters however although they do eat algae off the glass they
do not "scrub" it clean and the residue will remain and eventually have to
be removed.

Rick


  #9  
Old June 14th 04, 09:36 PM
Mary E. Hill
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Default algea control again:)


"Rick" wrote in message
...

"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
...

"Rick" wrote in message
...

"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
...
I don't think I should get any live algea eaters because of the tank

size,
so what would y'all recommend?

I've got the 5 gal hex in the office with a betta and two african

dwarf
frogs. It's the eclipse system with the light & filter built into

the
hood.

I've got about 2 inches of gravel in the bottom and do a partial

water
change every other week. The light is on 8-9 hours per day and not

on
weekends. Temp around 78-80.

I'm seeing just a bit on the glass and on the plastic plant (which

I'll
now
get rid of).

Any advice appreciated,

Mary



a bit of algae like you describe is normal. Scrub it off with a soft

pad
and
if necessary periodically bleach the plastic plants.

Rick


The 12 gal tank at home has never shown a single sign of algae like

this.
So
if I simply scrub it off, it won't get out of control? Really? I hope

it's
that simple

Thanks,
Mary



does this tank get more light than the one at home?. Perhaps it is located
in an area that gets more direct outside light. Many factors can cause

algae
such as too much light, overfeeding etc however I have 36 tanks and all

have
live plants, some have a few plastic (in those tanks where the fish eat

the
plants) and all have some form of algae. You can experiment by cutting

down
the the amount of time the light is on and the amount you feed, do more
frequent small water changes etc and it may help somewhat. Otto's are
excellent algae eaters however although they do eat algae off the glass

they
do not "scrub" it clean and the residue will remain and eventually have to
be removed.

Rick



k, thanks Rick!


 




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