Extending Water to Pond

Sorry - also, probably should be 20 amp service given pump loads and such.

Joe

On 3/3/04 5:20 PM, "joe" wrote:

BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Joe


On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote:

Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two
romex cables sounds bad?



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"Bryan" wrote in message
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here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline!
:-)

But honestly, if the trench is deep/wide enough, why not run in same hole?
But as others have said, check with local code/requirements would be a
good
idea also.

Bryan

(legal notice for those who spill McDonalds hot coffee on themselves, and
sue M, I'm just kidding!)


Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Sameer

"Snooze" wrote in message
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snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

One pipe was never mentioned in your post, BV.
Your post was clear to me.
Some folks just don't read carefully enough - my opinion ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
snip
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See,
I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?

BV.

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Sameer

"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same
trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Ahh, OK. I was confused.

BV.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:

BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it
before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex
into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling
for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that
situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are
we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit
wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long
enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple
references for using romex in conduit:

http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml
http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html
That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a
note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit.
“Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as
Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the
cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then
compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit
being used.

Regards,

Hal

OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it
Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same
trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Sameer

"Nedra" wrote in message
link.net...
OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it
Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on.


It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet,
you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's
creme brulee, then it's 2 servings.

Sameer

"Mike Patterson" wrote in message
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Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I plan to run 1/4" tubing (like
that used for refrigerator icemakers) inside the 1.5" line for water.
Since flow volume isn't a big deal for topping up, I think this will
be OK. Still have lots of space to run other low-current wiring & such
through the 1.5" pipe if I want to.

I'd recommend using a larger water tube. How long does it take to fill up a
glass of water from the fridge? Multiply that 200 gallons, and you've got an
afternoon of sitting by the pond waiting for it to top off. As someone who
has a tendency to wander off 10 minutes after turning on the hose, to return
to a flooded back yard, I think you'd want something a little faster.

Sameer