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Old April 7th 04, 12:11 AM
DAN
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Hello everyone. I'm a newbie to pond construction. So please excuse
my questions if they sound dumb. I'm planning to put in a liner
pond.. about 15 x 20 x 2.5 Do I need both a skimmer and a bottom
drain. My pump is only 1.5" diameter. Will this work for a bottom
drain. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.
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Old April 7th 04, 12:44 AM
RichToyBox
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Dan,

Need? I don't know if I would say that they are mandatory, but I believe
both are highly desirable. The skimmer will catch leaves, pollen, dust, and
a lot of the other stuff that hits the pond before it has a chance to
settle, and that means less mess on the bottom. The bottom drain will
constantly be working to clean the bottom for you so that you don't have to
get in and do it with a net, or broom and shovel. Both should have some
kind of catchment to catch the debris before it goes into the pump, whether
it is a lower pond, a strainer basket, or a settlement chamber.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"DAN" wrote in message
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Hello everyone. I'm a newbie to pond construction. So please excuse
my questions if they sound dumb. I'm planning to put in a liner
pond.. about 15 x 20 x 2.5 Do I need both a skimmer and a bottom
drain. My pump is only 1.5" diameter. Will this work for a bottom
drain. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.



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Old April 7th 04, 12:44 AM
RichToyBox
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Dan,

Need? I don't know if I would say that they are mandatory, but I believe
both are highly desirable. The skimmer will catch leaves, pollen, dust, and
a lot of the other stuff that hits the pond before it has a chance to
settle, and that means less mess on the bottom. The bottom drain will
constantly be working to clean the bottom for you so that you don't have to
get in and do it with a net, or broom and shovel. Both should have some
kind of catchment to catch the debris before it goes into the pump, whether
it is a lower pond, a strainer basket, or a settlement chamber.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"DAN" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone. I'm a newbie to pond construction. So please excuse
my questions if they sound dumb. I'm planning to put in a liner
pond.. about 15 x 20 x 2.5 Do I need both a skimmer and a bottom
drain. My pump is only 1.5" diameter. Will this work for a bottom
drain. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.



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Old April 7th 04, 02:26 AM
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"DAN" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone. I'm a newbie to pond construction. So please excuse
my questions if they sound dumb. I'm planning to put in a liner
pond.. about 15 x 20 x 2.5 Do I need both a skimmer and a bottom
drain. My pump is only 1.5" diameter. Will this work for a bottom
drain. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.

========================
I don't have either of these things and my fish are thriving these past few
years. Covering our ponds with nets and using the LymnoZyme products are
given the credit. This year I'm not even going to bother with the UV
lights. Both ponds have already cleared up on their own.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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Old April 7th 04, 02:26 AM
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"DAN" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone. I'm a newbie to pond construction. So please excuse
my questions if they sound dumb. I'm planning to put in a liner
pond.. about 15 x 20 x 2.5 Do I need both a skimmer and a bottom
drain. My pump is only 1.5" diameter. Will this work for a bottom
drain. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.

========================
I don't have either of these things and my fish are thriving these past few
years. Covering our ponds with nets and using the LymnoZyme products are
given the credit. This year I'm not even going to bother with the UV
lights. Both ponds have already cleared up on their own.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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Old April 7th 04, 04:25 AM
Ka30P
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You can run a pond without a skimmer or a bottom drain, or even without netting
it
BUT you will have to drain it and shovel
out loverly muck, every spring if you can,
which we don't, but we should!


kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A
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Old April 7th 04, 04:25 AM
Ka30P
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You can run a pond without a skimmer or a bottom drain, or even without netting
it
BUT you will have to drain it and shovel
out loverly muck, every spring if you can,
which we don't, but we should!


kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A
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Old April 7th 04, 05:57 AM
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"Ka30P" wrote in message
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You can run a pond without a skimmer or a bottom drain, or even without

netting

* This I would never again do. Too many predators where we live and I fully
believe they bring disease from natural lakes and rivers nearby. What the
diseases don't kill the predators take. I live in a real rural area.

it
BUT you will have to drain it and shovel
out loverly muck, every spring if you can,
which we don't, but we should!


* We're going to start doing ours every 2 years. There's not much on the
bottoms now.

kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A

--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Old April 7th 04, 05:57 AM
~ Windsong ~
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"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

You can run a pond without a skimmer or a bottom drain, or even without

netting

* This I would never again do. Too many predators where we live and I fully
believe they bring disease from natural lakes and rivers nearby. What the
diseases don't kill the predators take. I live in a real rural area.

it
BUT you will have to drain it and shovel
out loverly muck, every spring if you can,
which we don't, but we should!


* We're going to start doing ours every 2 years. There's not much on the
bottoms now.

kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A

--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Old April 7th 04, 04:05 PM
DAN
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Default do i need a bottom drain and a skimmer. Help!

Thanks for all the advice. I've read that the bottom drain is for mid
to large ponds. Is this true? Would the size of my pond be
considered small or mid? Are there plans for homemade skimmers or
bottom drains? Thanks in advance.


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ...
"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

You can run a pond without a skimmer or a bottom drain, or even without

netting

* This I would never again do. Too many predators where we live and I fully
believe they bring disease from natural lakes and rivers nearby. What the
diseases don't kill the predators take. I live in a real rural area.

it
BUT you will have to drain it and shovel
out loverly muck, every spring if you can,
which we don't, but we should!


* We're going to start doing ours every 2 years. There's not much on the
bottoms now.

kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A

 




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