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June 4th 04, 02:44 PM
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Hi all
Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris 
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June 4th 04, 04:35 PM
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel"
wrote: Hi all Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that I supply a local water garden store. your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a problem. The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they? -- - Charles - -does not play well with others
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June 4th 04, 04:52 PM
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Hi
Thanks for the reply... I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of aphids or the like.... I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help anyway. dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc... I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which is wilting....... I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho....... Any thoughts would be appreciated Regards Chris "Charles" wrote in message news  On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel" wrote: Hi all Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that I supply a local water garden store. your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a problem. The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they? -- - Charles - -does not play well with others
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June 4th 04, 08:11 PM
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It does sound like a little fertilizer will fix things, just follow the
instructions. -- Jim and Sara Humphries, Victoria, BC "ciel" wrote in message ... Hi Thanks for the reply... I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of aphids or the like.... I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help anyway. dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc... I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which is wilting....... I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho....... Any thoughts would be appreciated Regards Chris "Charles" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel" wrote: Hi all Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that I supply a local water garden store. your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a problem. The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they? -- - Charles - -does not play well with others
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June 4th 04, 08:26 PM
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:52:00 +0100, "ciel"
wrote: Hi Thanks for the reply... I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of aphids or the like.... I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help anyway. dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc... I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which is wilting....... I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho....... Any thoughts would be appreciated Regards Chris \ Try some of the hyacinths in a separate container, no other plants. There is a thing called allopathy, some plants harm or kill other plants with their secretions. I've never heard of water hyacinth being hurt, but it's worth a try if you have the space. I've never been able to keep Lobelia, Water Hawthorne dies every year and water cress tried to take over the whole place. -- - Charles - -does not play well with others
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June 4th 04, 08:31 PM
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"ciel" wrote in message ... Hi Thanks for the reply... I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of aphids or the like.... I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help anyway. If anything, the hardness should be higher, not lower. My water is much harder than that, and everything is fine. dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc... I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which is wilting....... I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho....... Any thoughts would be appreciated Regards Chris "Charles" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel" wrote: Hi all Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that I supply a local water garden store. your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a problem. The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they? -- - Charles - -does not play well with others
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June 4th 04, 10:00 PM
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With the curling and browning of leaves I suspect the salt. I know the 1%
is supposed to fine with plants .... but that is my guess. I would add some fresh water - see if that helps. Nedra " George" wrote in message ... "ciel" wrote in message ... Hi Thanks for the reply... I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of aphids or the like.... I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help anyway. If anything, the hardness should be higher, not lower. My water is much harder than that, and everything is fine. dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc... I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which is wilting....... I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho....... Any thoughts would be appreciated Regards Chris "Charles" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel" wrote: Hi all Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that I supply a local water garden store. your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a problem. The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they? -- - Charles - -does not play well with others
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June 5th 04, 04:45 AM
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Ciel,
I agree with Nedra, I would suspect your 1% concentration of salt. If you intent to continue to keep it in your pond you should work to get it to 0.01% to 0.03%. Water hyacinth can be bothered by 1% salt, especially since your GH is 22 degrees. Mine is usually around 300ppm (16.7 dGH). You should also check with your water department and see what are your minerals causing your dGH. The other thing that I would be concerned with is you dKH for it is a little close the the low side of the range. In my opinion it should be between 80ppm (4.5 dKH)and 120ppm (6.8 dKH). I try to keep mine in the 120ppm range. HTH Tom L.L. ------------------------------------------ ciel wrote: Hi all Newbie here please advise.!! Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week) Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation 2000 Gals in total Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today) Amonia= 0 NO3= 0 NO2= 0 PH= 8.5 dKH= 4.5 dGH= 21.....................????!!! Salinity= 1% 15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water Lettuce.....! Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon Potash This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me? Anyone have a solution please Many Thanks Regards Chris
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June 5th 04, 06:19 PM
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0.1% is fine with most plants. that is, 0.9lbs salt per 100 gallons. Ingrid
"Nedra" wrote: With the curling and browning of leaves I suspect the salt. I know the 1% is supposed to fine with plants . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make.
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