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Old September 26th 04, 12:03 AM
SA
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Hi all,

In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half inch
deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?

I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit from
anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those bubbles
are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.

Any ideas?

TIA

Steve


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Old September 26th 04, 12:35 AM
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Bubbles percolate up through the sand...

"SA" wrote in message
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Hi all,

In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half inch
deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?

I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit from
anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those

bubbles
are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.

Any ideas?

TIA

Steve




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Old September 26th 04, 05:48 PM
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How old is the sand bed?


"SA" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half inch
deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?

I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit from
anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those

bubbles
are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.

Any ideas?

TIA

Steve




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Old September 27th 04, 06:58 AM
Marc Levenson
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Hi Steve,

Those bubbles are nitrogen gas. As they rise and pop, the
are removing nitrates from your system. It is good thing
to observe, and these bubbles forming near the upper 1" of
substrate is quite common.

Marc


SA wrote:

Hi all,

In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half inch
deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?

I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit from
anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those bubbles
are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.

Any ideas?

TIA

Steve



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Old September 27th 04, 10:53 PM
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More than likely the bubbles in the sand are O2 from algae and not N2 gas


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"Mort" wrote in message
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: How old is the sand bed?
:
:
: "SA" wrote in message
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: Hi all,
:
: In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half inch
: deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
: going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?
:
: I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit from
: anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those
: bubbles
: are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.
:
: Any ideas?
:
: TIA
:
: Steve
:
:
:
:


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Old September 28th 04, 04:46 AM
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The sand bed is 2 months old now. 20Gl nano-reef with 15lbs live rock and
30lb sand.


"Mort" wrote in message
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How old is the sand bed?


"SA" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half

inch
deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?

I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit

from
anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those

bubbles
are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.

Any ideas?

TIA

Steve






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Old September 28th 04, 04:50 AM
SA
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Hmmm,

Interesting point... after I turned on my lights (left the rock to cure and
the tank to cycle with lights mostly off) I do have a bit of an algae bloom.
However I don't know how one can make a positive ID in terms of the
composition of the bubbles. O2 is certainly a possibility... what puzzles me
is how it is accumulated there.... there's really no algae at that depth
that I can see of. I'd much rather it be N2

Thanks for responding and the links I'll check them out.

Steve

"Boomer" wrote in message
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More than likely the bubbles in the sand are O2 from algae and not N2 gas


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"Mort" wrote in message
. ..
: How old is the sand bed?
:
:
: "SA" wrote in message
: ...
: Hi all,
:
: In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half

inch
: deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that

de-nitrification
: going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?
:
: I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit

from
: anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those
: bubbles
: are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.
:
: Any ideas?
:
: TIA
:
: Steve
:
:
:
:




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Old September 28th 04, 04:52 AM
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Marc,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that they are nitrogen. My sand bed is
about 2 months old. I did use live sand however. Is that long enough you
think for anaerobic activity to start?

Steve

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
m...
Hi Steve,

Those bubbles are nitrogen gas. As they rise and pop, the
are removing nitrates from your system. It is good thing
to observe, and these bubbles forming near the upper 1" of
substrate is quite common.

Marc


SA wrote:

Hi all,

In my sand bed I see little air bubbles approximately 1/4 to 1/2 half

inch
deep from the surface of the sand on the glass. Is that de-nitrification
going on? I thought that this occurs deeper in the sand bed?

I have about 3-4 inches of sand on my tank and was hoping to benefit

from
anaerobic activity, however right now I am not sure as to what those

bubbles
are. Trapped air... or actually nitrogen.

Any ideas?

TIA

Steve



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Old September 28th 04, 05:09 PM
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"SA" wrote in message
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Marc,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that they are nitrogen. My sand bed is
about 2 months old. I did use live sand however. Is that long enough you
think for anaerobic activity to start?


I would agree with Marc on this one. If there no algae or air pocket that
was trap, I would or can assumed it nitrogen gas that being release from the
sandbed. Critter that roam in the sand can release their own gas and get
trap in the sandbed too.

CapFusion,...


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Old September 29th 04, 06:16 AM
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Yes, within 3 weeks I saw it occur in my tank. Within 6
months, your sandbed should be mature and doing this
throughout the tank.

Marc


SA wrote:

Marc,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that they are nitrogen. My sand bed is
about 2 months old. I did use live sand however. Is that long enough you
think for anaerobic activity to start?

Steve



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