starting a new nano tank

Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing research
on this
for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about what I
need and how to go about doing this right.

Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I saw I
liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some green
polyps.

The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a tiger
jawfish.

Everything in the tank will be:
- 2 clowns
- 1 jawfish
- 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
- plenum (plans at garf)
- the corals mentioned above
- 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
- a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
- a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around here. I
see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
- The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com one set
actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two timers to
simulate dawn/dusk
- Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)

and that should be it.
Anything I forgot?

Comments on extra equipment I could use?

Is this combination possible?

Thanks for your help. -Chris

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"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
om...
| Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing
research
| on this
| for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
| afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about
what I
| need and how to go about doing this right.
|
| Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I
saw I
| liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some
green
| polyps.
|
| The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a
tiger
| jawfish.
|
| Everything in the tank will be:
| - 2 clowns
| - 1 jawfish
| - 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
| - plenum (plans at garf)
| - the corals mentioned above
| - 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
| - a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
| - a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around
here. I
| see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
| - The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com
one set
| actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two
timers to
| simulate dawn/dusk
| - Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)
|
| and that should be it.
| Anything I forgot?
|
| Comments on extra equipment I could use?
|
| Is this combination possible?
|
| Thanks for your help. -Chris
|
|


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First, too many fish. 2 fish is pushing it, yet alone 3.
Stick with only polyps and mushrooms for a low light set up.
Get a small Rio powerhead.
You need more light then 26watts. Get at least 36 if you want to keep any
coral.
Clean up crew: 10 hermits, 3 small snails, skunk cleaner shrimp.

Surf around this site for a couple weeks before you make any purchases:
http://www.nano-reef.com



"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
om...
Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing
research
on this
for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about what I
need and how to go about doing this right.

Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I saw I
liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some green
polyps.

The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a tiger
jawfish.

Everything in the tank will be:
- 2 clowns
- 1 jawfish
- 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
- plenum (plans at garf)
- the corals mentioned above
- 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
- a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
- a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around here. I
see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
- The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com one
set
actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two timers to
simulate dawn/dusk
- Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)

and that should be it.
Anything I forgot?

Comments on extra equipment I could use?

Is this combination possible?

Thanks for your help. -Chris

Also, don't get clowns if you aren't going to have an anemone for it. And
you can't have an anemone under low light. You would need at least
80-96Watts (perferably metal halide)


"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
om...
Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing
research
on this
for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about what I
need and how to go about doing this right.

Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I saw I
liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some green
polyps.

The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a tiger
jawfish.

Everything in the tank will be:
- 2 clowns
- 1 jawfish
- 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
- plenum (plans at garf)
- the corals mentioned above
- 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
- a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
- a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around here. I
see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
- The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com one
set
actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two timers to
simulate dawn/dusk
- Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)

and that should be it.
Anything I forgot?

Comments on extra equipment I could use?

Is this combination possible?

Thanks for your help. -Chris

J.S. wrote:
First, too many fish. 2 fish is pushing it, yet alone 3.
Stick with only polyps and mushrooms for a low light set up.
Get a small Rio powerhead.
You need more light then 26watts. Get at least 36 if you want to
keep any coral.
Clean up crew: 10 hermits, 3 small snails, skunk cleaner shrimp.


Hey, I don't feel so bad then. I have an 8- or 10-gal. hex with live sand
and live rock. I bought a fuzzy-legged hermit crab and a red hermit at the
fish store, one turbo snail, one smaller snail and when we went to the beach
I caught six or seven hermits, a snail, a baby rock crab, a glass shrimp and
a few anemones. No fish, power compact bulb, don't know how many watts,
that my husband wired into the lid of the tank for me.

Are the hermits a bad thing? They have light-colored legs with darker
stripes.

Cindy

Well I'll have a combined total of 52W of light out of the (2) 2X13 bright
kits. The lfs guys told me that would be plenty over such a small tank to
raise even the corals that need stronger light. I read somewhere that
clowns will use other things besides anemones as a host if there is not an
anemone available. That is why I was going to choose the green frogspawn.
Maybe I just haven't done enough research on this. Also I read some places
where people had 3 fish in a 10gal nano. Another thing I need to research
into more. Hrmmm... If I increased the max water volume by adding a sump
would that allow me to have the 3 fish? Or is it just to small a space?

OR

would a 15H tank allow me to keep the 3 fish?

Btw thanks for all the help. -Chris


"J.S." wrote in message news:IHRcd.135$gq2.51@trnddc01...
Also, don't get clowns if you aren't going to have an anemone for it. And
you can't have an anemone under low light. You would need at least
80-96Watts (perferably metal halide)


"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
om...
Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing
research
on this
for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about what I
need and how to go about doing this right.

Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I saw I
liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some green
polyps.

The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a tiger
jawfish.

Everything in the tank will be:
- 2 clowns
- 1 jawfish
- 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
- plenum (plans at garf)
- the corals mentioned above
- 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
- a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
- a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around here.
I
see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
- The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com one
set
actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two timers
to
simulate dawn/dusk
- Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)

and that should be it.
Anything I forgot?

Comments on extra equipment I could use?

Is this combination possible?

Thanks for your help. -Chris

Did you state which 3 fish you would like to keep in there? I forget....

There's one thing to consider about fish selection for such a small tank. You
should find out where the fish you want to get like to hang out. For instance,
I have a Hi Fin Red Banded Goby (with Randall's pistol shrimp) and a Purple
Firefish. The Hi Fin likes to hang out near the sand and its burrow the shrimp
made for him. The Firefish likes the water column. They dont even share each
other's space so there's no territory to fight about (both fishes are pretty
passive anyways, I'm just giving an example). If I was going to add one more
fish, which then I'd be going into Im-going-to-get-flamed-on-the-internet
territory lol, it would be a Black Clown Goby. They mostly perch in corals
which would be the only place my other fish dont go. Oh, I have a ~12 gallon
tank with a ~8 gallon sump.
~John

J.S. wrote:
No, hermits are great. They feed on algae that grows on rocks and
sand. You should be fine with them, as well as the snails. you
should ask your husband if he knows how many watts your tank has. Anemones
need a lot of light, and are hard to keep. You need to hand
feed them little pieces of shrimp or other meaty foods. If your
husband says 80Watts or higher, you should be ok.

Thanks! I have been feeding the anemones. I don't think I do have enough
light, they've been opening less lately. Better do something about that.

Cindy

Clowns are perfectly fine with no anemone host....... FWIW

J.S. wrote:

Also, don't get clowns if you aren't going to have an anemone for it. And
you can't have an anemone under low light. You would need at least
80-96Watts (perferably metal halide)


"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
. com...


Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing


research


on this
for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about what I
need and how to go about doing this right.

Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I saw I
liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some green
polyps.

The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a tiger
jawfish.

Everything in the tank will be:
- 2 clowns
- 1 jawfish
- 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
- plenum (plans at garf)
- the corals mentioned above
- 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
- a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
- a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around here. I
see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
- The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com one


set


actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two timers to
simulate dawn/dusk
- Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)

and that should be it.
Anything I forgot?

Comments on extra equipment I could use?

Is this combination possible?

Thanks for your help. -Chris









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Sure, but they don't naturally exist like that. Why take that away from them? Again, just because the fish might be ok without it doesn't make it ok.
"RicSeyler" wrote in message .. .
Clowns are perfectly fine with no anemone host....... FWIW

J.S. wrote:

Also, don't get clowns if you aren't going to have an anemone for it. And
you can't have an anemone under low light. You would need at least
80-96Watts (perferably metal halide)


"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
om...
Alright, I'm wanting to start a 10gal. nano reef. I've been doing
research
on this
for the last few days, and I went and looked around at stores this
afternoon. All the stores I went to had different opinions about what I
need and how to go about doing this right.

Basically I figured I want a few easy to keep corals. The frags I saw I
liked were green frogspawn and some assorted zooanthids, and some green
polyps.

The fish I want are a mated pair of false percula clowns and a tiger
jawfish.

Everything in the tank will be:
- 2 clowns
- 1 jawfish
- 3" DSB (carib sea aragonite premium reef floor)
- plenum (plans at garf)
- the corals mentioned above
- 16 pounds of LR (cured Fiji I believe)
- a powerhead to stir the water (Any advice on this?)
- a 50W submersible heater (I haven't found an ebo jager around here. I
see people seem to like those best, any other good ones?)
- The lights will be two deluxe 2X13w brightkits from ahsupply.com one
set
actinic the other 10000k white bulbs. I will put these on two timers to
simulate dawn/dusk
- Clean up crew. (Not sure on this either. Suggestions?)

and that should be it.
Anything I forgot?

Comments on extra equipment I could use?

Is this combination possible?

Thanks for your help. -Chris






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Ric Seyler