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Old February 18th 05, 08:13 AM
damian damian is offline
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Many thanks Hal and Kathy

Regards
Damian


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hal
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:06:32 +0000, damian
wrote:

I understand that this makes sense but do you think I need to drain the
pond? I am prepared to do what ever is required to get the pond up and
running but with so many different views it is a bit confusing.


One of the problems with this group is so many opinions and I wouldn't
drain the pond unless I found a good reason. I'd vacuum the muck off
the bottom and top off the pond with more water. It is true a pond
fish lives in an environment comparable to a toilet bowl, but if there
is no muck accumulating on the bottom and no overload of waste being
generated things will work out.

What should I wash the filters with?
The pond has a lot of green alga on the sides how do I get rid of
this?


Don't get rid of the algae on the sides. That is a sign of a healthy
pond. Some of these algae even feed directly on ammonia without it
being converted to nitrates, and that can be a good thing.

Probably the easiest way to clean the filter is with a water hose, but
lots of ponders will scream at this idea because the water supply
usually has chlorine in it and the chlorine will kill the filter
bacteria. If the pump isn't running there isn't an appreciable
amount of bacteria in the filter still alive anyway and the hose will
be fine. Another way it to put the filter in water without chlorine
and slosh it up and down. (To get water without chlorine leave it
sit overnight at normal room temperature.)

I have been to the shops and have seen a solution that you put in the
pond that will kill the alga. I am not very happy to do this as I feel
that it is too severe.


Problem with using a chemical to kill algae is the dead algae feeds a
new crop that comes back in a short time and you need chemicals again.
A better solution is to work toward a natural balanced pond that
clears on it's own and hopefully remains clear. I used to think I
knew how to do that, but I'll refer you to some interesting reading.
http://www.koiclubsandiego.org/library/green_water.html

I'm sorry to ask you so many questions but I can assure you that your
help is greatly appreciated.


Welcome to the crowd. It is an interesting pastime.

Regards,

Hal

It ain't so much what folks don't know, but so much of what folks know
ain't right.
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Old February 18th 05, 02:57 PM
ianw
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Hi

I saw the note about chlorine removal from tap water. For all pond
enthusiasts we have a solution at

http://www.pozzani.co.uk/water-filte...duct_info.html

It does work out at about =A360 including the first cartridge. We
actually sell these to domestic customers for whole-house chlorine
removal (for people with skin conditions etc) so they will be more than
adequate for mid-summer pond top-ups, or cleaning your filter box out.

Replacement cartridges are =A323.95 every six months.

Ian




damian wrote:
Many thanks Hal and Kathy

Regards
Damian


Hal Wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:06:32 +0000, damian
wrote:
-
I understand that this makes sense but do you think I need to drain
the
pond? I am prepared to do what ever is required to get the pond up
and
running but with so many different views it is a bit confusing.-

One of the problems with this group is so many opinions and I

wouldn't
drain the pond unless I found a good reason. I'd vacuum the muck

off
the bottom and top off the pond with more water. It is true a

pond
fish lives in an environment comparable to a toilet bowl, but if

there
is no muck accumulating on the bottom and no overload of waste

being
generated things will work out.-

What should I wash the filters with?
The pond has a lot of green alga on the sides how do I get rid of
this?-

Don't get rid of the algae on the sides. That is a sign of a

healthy
pond. Some of these algae even feed directly on ammonia without

it
being converted to nitrates, and that can be a good thing.

Probably the easiest way to clean the filter is with a water hose,

but
lots of ponders will scream at this idea because the water supply
usually has chlorine in it and the chlorine will kill the filter
bacteria. If the pump isn't running there isn't an appreciable
amount of bacteria in the filter still alive anyway and the hose

will
be fine. Another way it to put the filter in water without

chlorine
and slosh it up and down. (To get water without chlorine leave it
sit overnight at normal room temperature.)
-
I have been to the shops and have seen a solution that you put in

the
pond that will kill the alga. I am not very happy to do this as I

feel
that it is too severe.-

Problem with using a chemical to kill algae is the dead algae feeds

a
new crop that comes back in a short time and you need chemicals

again.
A better solution is to work toward a natural balanced pond that
clears on it's own and hopefully remains clear. I used to think I
knew how to do that, but I'll refer you to some interesting

reading.
http://www.koiclubsandiego.org/libra...en_water.html-

I'm sorry to ask you so many questions but I can assure you that

your
help is greatly appreciated.-

Welcome to the crowd. It is an interesting pastime.

Regards,

Hal

It ain't so much what folks don't know, but so much of what folks

know
ain't right.

=20
=20
--=20
damian


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Old February 19th 05, 03:35 PM
Hal
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IMO That's a waste for ponders! I can't see how one of good
conscience would suggest such an extravagant solution. Makes me
suspect the suggester is making a profit and not interested in helping
someone else.

Hal

On 18 Feb 2005 06:57:14 -0800, "ianw"
wrote:

Hi

I saw the note about chlorine removal from tap water. For all pond
enthusiasts we have a solution at

http://www.pozzani.co.uk/water-filte...duct_info.html

It does work out at about £60 including the first cartridge. We
actually sell these to domestic customers for whole-house chlorine
removal (for people with skin conditions etc) so they will be more than
adequate for mid-summer pond top-ups, or cleaning your filter box out.

Replacement cartridges are £23.95 every six months.

Ian


 




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