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![]() "A. Paul Ing" wrote in message ... Reel McKoi They have a tablet that you can dropin the bagged fish and it creates O2. I have seen it used down on the coast for bait fish, and I do remember it stated for freshwater or sal****er....Also a couple of shots of Amquel or Stress coat in the bag, use a small hand pump or such (not an air compressor that has oil in its crankcase) to inflate the bag, do not use your own breath/air. Thanks,... but see what I mean about not having anything to ship them correctly? We don't want to get into shipping the fish because it's just not worth it. I'd have to buy the bags, a compresser or hand pump, the Amquel, the hog ties, scrounge up boxes, have them ready... etc. I have just whats needed here, a concentrator I found along the roadway. It is used for o2 supply for people..evidently it fell off a vehicle or somehting, but it works like a champ and have had it tested.....however you can get a small tank of O2 for very little money and it goes a long way. If yu have a petco or petsmart talk to their fish people and ask what they do with their foam boxes......Our both stores here as well as the mom and pop LFS all throw them out. I get a load of them all the time.....they come n handy for lots of stuff. So that may be a source for foam insulated boxes. As for bags, I use dunnage bags......they are super heavy duty and I double or triple bag. I just asked my wife to grab some at work as they use them for dunnage in the trailers.......and they are almost bust proof. Securing them is harder but can be done with a little practice. I use a elastrator (used to castrate male livestock by way of small hevy duty rubber bands.......and this is how a lot of vendors close their bags up. Another is get a box of #1 or 2 hog rings at the local farm and feed store, twist bags up tight, and use a hog ring or two on the bags twisted end squeezed closed with a regular pair of pliers. Works just fine. I really do not ship any fish much anymore since I quit farming out tropicals and wakins.......One thing I had going for me is I am only a hop skip and jump from airport, but I still relied on Fed EX to ship them......and since they are open 24/7 they used to tell me when to have them there so they would make the load to the airport with little laying around. In the few years I shipped fish I had relatively few problems......On average its gonna be about 25-35 bucks for a box of fish, be it one fish or 100 fry......Koiphen.com has a few good articles on shipping fish..... I'm going to try and avoid shipping at all costs. I'm just not set up for it and I'm already feeling overwhelmed taking care of all these fish. I just noticed there are about 50 more new fry in one of the holding tanks behind the house. What I believed to be two females was a pair. It's starting to become a full time job instead of a pleasurable hobby now that this area is getting saturated. The original guy who was going to take them all had to back down because he wasn't selling what he already had as fast as he expected. I was lucky the two other stores took most, but not all of them. In the past few years the stores snapped them up as fast as I had them up to size (3 to 5"). And it was like everyone I knew had a cousin or brother who wanted to buy a few pond fish from us. But it seems that now everyone else is having a koi baby-boom and the market will only absorb so many. If shipping is the only answer I think I have to start looking to sell or give away the adults..... BTW. I was stiffed twice on pond plants I sent to people I met on this NG years ago. Of three boxes I sent, only one person paid me for S&H - so I stopped shipping plants. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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