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![]() wrote in message ... actually, the smaller the air bubbles coming out of the air stone the larger the over all surface to volume ratio. which is why airstones can put so much more air into water that just disturbing the surface. now if those bubbles break the surface and rise into the air there is exchange both on the inside and outside of that film of water. an airstone in the water moves a water column up to the top and it flows outwards creating a moving column of water that brings water from the bottom up to the top or vertically. this is much better circulation than a venturi that moves water only horizontally across the surface. In a pond, as opposed to an aquarium, in order to get an equivalent water flow and gas exchange from an airstone would require vastly more air than most people are willing to spend the money on, in my opinion. And the water movement into the column disipates over a fairly short distance. oxygenating fresh water is simpler, and less critical than it is with salt water, especially with goldfish, since they can practically live in sewage. Larger fish like koi are a different story. But the whole issue is probably moot anyway, since if the fish aren't suffering, there is really no point in going to the added expense and trouble. I can see a situation in which you have too much bioload in the pond then you would need to add air, but to me the best solution is to simply reduce the bioload. Fish gasping for air because of too little oxygen in the water is a sure sign of a pond that simply has too much growth. The only time I use an airstone is in the dead of winter to keep the water moving, since I don't want to damage my pump by having it freeze up on me. I do use a floating de-icer, but that doesn't guarantee that the water in the filter won't freeze. pumps should not be put on the bottom of ponds. too much chance of something going wrong and the pond being drained. Ingrid I agree that you should never place the pump directly on the bottom of the pond unprotected. However, if the piping is installed properly, and you add an adequate pre-filter to the pump intake (one that can be easily cleaned), I see no reason not to put a pump on the bottom. I don't do it simply because my filtration system is designed differently. Personally, I use the suction method in my filtration system instead of positive pressure for several reasons. First, I have a 5 gallon pre-filter in the bottom of the pond, to which is attached to the intake of the main filter. The main filter consists of an old jacuzzi swimming pool filter housing (about 40 gallons capacity) that I have adapted for use in the pond. The filter is submersed in the pond out of sight beneath my waterfall. The intake line attaches to a 90degree elbow, which is attached to a threaded coupling that goes into the bottom of the filter tank. Attached to the coupling on the inside of the tank is a stainless steel basket line strainer that catches any debris that happens to get past the prefilter (which usually is very little). Surrounding the strainer is about 50 lbs of quartz aquarium gravel, which fills the tank about half way to the top. Above the gravel is a very course mesh polymer pad to keep the gravel from getting sucked up into the pump. The pump sits about two inches above this pad. The pump is attached to the top plate via fittings, into which the outlet is attached. The electrical cable also goes through the top plate via a rubber electrical grommet. The top of the filter sits about three inches below the top of the water in the pond, so the pump intake itself is submerged into about the top 15 inches of water. The effect is just to suck or pull the water through the system. The only water going through the pump is filtered water. It is at the end instead of at the beginning of the filtration process. An added benfit is that it can never pump all of the water out of the pond. I always know when the pre-filter needs cleaning or the water level has dropped for some reason, because the pump will raise pitch due to the water level being drawn down to the level of the pump intake (inside the filter housing), causing a slight cavitation. Since I check it every day, there is very little risk of the pump burning out due to extended caviation and/or overheating. And the pump was actually designed to run practially dry. When I get a chance, I will give you a link to some photos of the filtration system. Oh, and because I use a very efficient pre-filter, I almost never have to backwash the main filter, which allows the bacteria to flourish undisturbed. I do, about once every six months, open the filter and swish the gravel around to get rid of any potential clumping, and then pump the gunk out into a bucket. But I haven't had to do it yet this year. I still have full water flow. One day, when I decide to spend the money, which will probably be whenever the pump fails, this is the pump that is on my "some day" wish list: http://www.flotecpump.com/ Actually, the air water interface is at least as important, if not more important. The larger the surface area of the air/water interface, the greater the exchange of gases. While an airstone can pump air through the water, it does so in a limited way, since it is only making contact with a small area of water at a time and only influences the immediate area around the airstone. By inducing a current across the surface of the water with a pump located at the bottom of the pond, you will induce more gas exchange because of the greater surface area involved. It also helps in preventing zonation from froming in the water column, since you are pumping the water from the bottom and streaming it across the surface, which in turn, allows oxygenated water to move towards the bottom of the pond. The ripples going across the surface of the pond also looks nice. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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