breeding nightmare

Mine are prolofic breeders as well but I haven't got to your stage. I'm
wondering if the Plec keeps the numbers down - he never feeds on
anything other than what is in the tank even if offered....

If it does become a problem I will also consider the pictus

Gill

its only in the past few months its got this bad, I have no idea why they
are surviving so well, I have 2 plecs and 2 synodontis which I thought would
help but the young are very very good at hiding even getting them out of the
tank is like a military operation thats why I leave it as long as possible
so as not to disrupt the fish too often, although at one point we were
removing 20+ young every three weeks, i'm desperate now, if only there was
the fish equivalent of bromide!

Stephen Provis wrote:

Mine are prolofic breeders as well but I haven't got to your stage. I'm
wondering if the Plec keeps the numbers down - he never feeds on
anything other than what is in the tank even if offered....

If it does become a problem I will also consider the pictus

Gill


its only in the past few months its got this bad, I have no idea why they
are surviving so well, I have 2 plecs and 2 synodontis which I thought would
help but the young are very very good at hiding even getting them out of the
tank is like a military operation thats why I leave it as long as possible
so as not to disrupt the fish too often, although at one point we were
removing 20+ young every three weeks, i'm desperate now, if only there was
the fish equivalent of bromide!



Know what you mean about the bromide - LOL

My tank hasn't quite got as bad as you describe but there are rather a
lot of fry of varying sizes - I haven't taken any to the LFS yet mainly
because the thought of tearing down the rock work to catch them is quite
daunting. I checked on the synodontis and am wondering if I might get
some of these to help control things before it gets too bad.

Gill

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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its only in the past few months its got this bad, I have no idea why
they
are surviving so well, I have 2 plecs and 2 synodontis which I thought
would
help but the young are very very good at hiding even getting them out of
the
tank is like a military operation thats why I leave it as long as
possible
so as not to disrupt the fish too often, although at one point we were
removing 20+ young every three weeks, i'm desperate now, if only there
was
the fish equivalent of bromide!



Know what you mean about the bromide - LOL

My tank hasn't quite got as bad as you describe but there are rather a
lot of fry of varying sizes - I haven't taken any to the LFS yet mainly
because the thought of tearing down the rock work to catch them is quite
daunting. I checked on the synodontis and am wondering if I might get
some of these to help control things before it gets too bad.

Gill

the first few times were hell as I had loads of rock in there, i've had to
cut it down to try and reduce the number of hiding spaces, what hasn't
helped id the plecs/synos are not interested in the young so they are
happily swimming round and only hiding when an adult decides to chase them a
bit.
what makes fishing them out even worse is that the tank is over 2ft deep and
even standing on a ladder I can hardly reach some of the rock

Chelle(posting from her husbands email)

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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Stephen Provis wrote:

Mine are prolofic breeders as well but I haven't got to your stage.
I'm
wondering if the Plec keeps the numbers down - he never feeds on
anything other than what is in the tank even if offered....

If it does become a problem I will also consider the pictus

Gill


its only in the past few months its got this bad, I have no idea why
they
are surviving so well, I have 2 plecs and 2 synodontis which I thought
would
help but the young are very very good at hiding even getting them out
of the
tank is like a military operation thats why I leave it as long as
possible
so as not to disrupt the fish too often, although at one point we were
removing 20+ young every three weeks, i'm desperate now, if only there
was
the fish equivalent of bromide!



Know what you mean about the bromide - LOL

My tank hasn't quite got as bad as you describe but there are rather a
lot of fry of varying sizes - I haven't taken any to the LFS yet mainly
because the thought of tearing down the rock work to catch them is
quite daunting. I checked on the synodontis and am wondering if I might
get some of these to help control things before it gets too bad.

Gill

If you look at a pictus's long twin barbels, you get a sense of how they
hunt. They sweep the barbels through the cracks in the rocks, and
frighten the fry momentarily out into the open. They also 'taste' with
the barbels, so they know exactly when to turn their heads and open their
mouths. They are almost always in a forward motion as well, so they have
that advantage as well. Formidable eating machines.

Synodontis typically have branched barbels, more typically designed for
sifting through sand looking for invertebrates. They are (imo)
specialized bottom feeders for smaller prey, while pictus are more
adapted to covering larger areas faster looking for larger prey (fry).
--
www.NetMax.tk

Heres a crazy thought. What about abstinence??? Take out the females &
problem is solved.

"NetMax" wrote in message
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"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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Stephen Provis wrote:

Mine are prolofic breeders as well but I haven't got to your stage. I'm
wondering if the Plec keeps the numbers down - he never feeds on
anything other than what is in the tank even if offered....

If it does become a problem I will also consider the pictus

Gill


its only in the past few months its got this bad, I have no idea why
they
are surviving so well, I have 2 plecs and 2 synodontis which I thought
would
help but the young are very very good at hiding even getting them out of
the
tank is like a military operation thats why I leave it as long as
possible
so as not to disrupt the fish too often, although at one point we were
removing 20+ young every three weeks, i'm desperate now, if only there
was
the fish equivalent of bromide!



Know what you mean about the bromide - LOL

My tank hasn't quite got as bad as you describe but there are rather a
lot of fry of varying sizes - I haven't taken any to the LFS yet mainly
because the thought of tearing down the rock work to catch them is quite
daunting. I checked on the synodontis and am wondering if I might get
some of these to help control things before it gets too bad.

Gill

If you look at a pictus's long twin barbels, you get a sense of how they
hunt. They sweep the barbels through the cracks in the rocks, and
frighten the fry momentarily out into the open. They also 'taste' with
the barbels, so they know exactly when to turn their heads and open their
mouths. They are almost always in a forward motion as well, so they have
that advantage as well. Formidable eating machines.

Synodontis typically have branched barbels, more typically designed for
sifting through sand looking for invertebrates. They are (imo)
specialized bottom feeders for smaller prey, while pictus are more adapted
to covering larger areas faster looking for larger prey (fry).
--
www.NetMax.tk

The aboriginal few times were hell as I had endless of bedrock in there, i've had to cut it down to try and abate the amount of ambuscade spaces, what hasn't helped id the plecs/synos are not absorbed in the adolescent so they are happily pond annular and alone ambuscade if an developed decides to hunt them a bit.