Aquarists vs Marine Biologists

According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an aquarium,
in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.



In other words, anyone that maintains an aquarium good or bad is an
aquarist. To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the
field.



Before I decided to enter the aquarist's domain, I was told not to by
colleagues because the "establishment" was going to start bombarding me with
obstacles since they had been doing things in a very profitable way and
bringing common sense to the domain was going to encounter a lot of
criticism.



When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could bring
hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too expensive.

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is that
common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those benefiting
with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.



I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a bio/mech
filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and nitrites from
the water without expensive investments or any stupid chemical at all.



Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping system
only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a year.



If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you are
getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can satisfy
your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will be well
spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean in your home
for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist not to a
custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask him/her if
your system is cycling products and if there is an evident cybernetic use of
nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest pet shop and bring a
nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.



jrs

J R-S typed:
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an
aquarium, in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.
In other words, anyone that maintains an aquarium good or bad is an
aquarist. To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on
the field.
Before I decided to enter the aquarist's domain, I was told not to
by colleagues because the "establishment" was going to start
bombarding me with obstacles since they had been doing things in a
very profitable way and bringing common sense to the domain was
going to encounter a lot of criticism.

When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge
could bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but
find it too expensive.

You can't bring much hope by making a lot of unsubstantiated claims. How's
it going to help when you won't tell us how you're doing it?

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7
months running it with no water changes and with inexpensive
equipment. My hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but
common sense. It is that common sense that sparked the criticism
of, whom else, but those benefiting with selling that expensive and
overrated set of gadgets.
I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates
and nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any
stupid chemical at all.

So what did you use and how did you do it?

Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new
system stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore
pumping system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2
water changes a year.

Oh, it's going to be "in the market"? I assume then that you've made it a
big secret because YOU want to make money off it. I get it.

If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits
you are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something,
you can satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the
money will be well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a
piece of ocean in your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes,
talk to a specialist not to a custodian. There will be a marine
bio close to your house, ask him/her if your system is cycling
products and if there is an evident cybernetic use of nutrients, if
that is not the case, go to your closest pet shop and bring a nice
checkbook with you, you'll need it.


jrs

"J R-S" wrote in message
...
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an aquarium,
in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.


Any REAL marine biologist would be thrilled with the fact that people are
able to not only propagate fish but corals as well in a home aquarium
thereby reducing and maybe even one day eliminating the need to collect wild
specimens from the world's depleting reefs.You sir are both an asshole and a
fraud.

J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 5:06 PM:
To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the
field.

Well then that leaves you out.

You should have titled this thread "Aquarists vs Troll"
because you are no marine biologist.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 5:06 PM:
To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the field.

Well then that leaves you out.

You should have titled this thread "Aquarists vs Troll" because you
are no marine biologist.



For once, Wayne, we agree on something.

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could bring
hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too expensive.

The problem is that you do not try to share your field knowledge here.
You make misleading comments (ie: ammonia should be there in the tank!)
and claims not backed with any details or recreatable at home recipes.

You arrived here just to heal your sick and weak ego, but you got
hurt with (well deserved) criticism for your not-so-friendly aproach.
Now you are crying about "establishment crushing your", complaining
about high priced equipment, and... writing about introducing on the
market a piece of equipment yourself. What is wrong with this picture ?

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is that
common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those benefiting
with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.

Anybody with experience in keeping aquariums had a chance to see
what you have done and confirmed it is something really special ?
Because you have no experience yourself, so you do not know what
is doable and what is not in our hobby.

I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a bio/mech
filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and nitrites from
the water without expensive investments or any stupid chemical at all.

Cool! Then share your knowledge and experience if you care...
If not - what is a TRUE reason you came here ?

Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping system
only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a year.

No skimmer or built in skimmer? When will you decide on facts?

If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you are
getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can satisfy
your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will be well
spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean in your home
for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist not to a
custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask him/her if
your system is cycling products and if there is an evident cybernetic use of
nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest pet shop and bring a
nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.

And how fat of a checkbook should one have to get your magic filter ?
BTW -
have you given a name to your invention yet ? Think about an "algae scrubber".
That would be pretty magical and for sure very original... ;-)

My dear Cindy;
I came here not to brag about my scientific background, yet I did, I am
sorry..
I came here not to brag about my inexpensive filter yet I did, I am sorry...
I came here not to publicize my invention yet I did, I am sorry...
I built my system in a capitalistic society and it will be sold, I am
sorry...
I can't tell you how I did it because then I will have nothing to sell, I am
sorry...
If you think I am sorry, you most be a fool

jrs
"Cindy" wrote in message
et...
J R-S typed:
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an
aquarium, in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.
In other words, anyone that maintains an aquarium good or bad is an
aquarist. To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on
the field.
Before I decided to enter the aquarist's domain, I was told not to
by colleagues because the "establishment" was going to start
bombarding me with obstacles since they had been doing things in a
very profitable way and bringing common sense to the domain was
going to encounter a lot of criticism.

When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge
could bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but
find it too expensive.

You can't bring much hope by making a lot of unsubstantiated claims.
How's it going to help when you won't tell us how you're doing it?

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7
months running it with no water changes and with inexpensive
equipment. My hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but
common sense. It is that common sense that sparked the criticism
of, whom else, but those benefiting with selling that expensive and
overrated set of gadgets.
I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates
and nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any
stupid chemical at all.

So what did you use and how did you do it?

Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new
system stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore
pumping system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2
water changes a year.

Oh, it's going to be "in the market"? I assume then that you've made it a
big secret because YOU want to make money off it. I get it.

If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits
you are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something,
you can satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the
money will be well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a
piece of ocean in your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes,
talk to a specialist not to a custodian. There will be a marine
bio close to your house, ask him/her if your system is cycling
products and if there is an evident cybernetic use of nutrients, if
that is not the case, go to your closest pet shop and bring a nice
checkbook with you, you'll need it.


jrs

yeah, yeah, yeah
I may be all that, so what? if I am an asshole and a fraud, what does that
make you?

jrs
"Karl" no.spam@formeoru2 wrote in message
ink.net...

"J R-S" wrote in message
...
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an
aquarium, in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.


Any REAL marine biologist would be thrilled with the fact that people
are able to not only propagate fish but corals as well in a home aquarium
thereby reducing and maybe even one day eliminating the need to collect
wild specimens from the world's depleting reefs.You sir are both an
asshole and a fraud.

Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show you
my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the same
time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

jrs
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 5:06 PM:
To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the field.

Well then that leaves you out.

You should have titled this thread "Aquarists vs Troll" because you are no
marine biologist.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not against
my findings. That is easily understood since I made a head-on attack to the
establishment and to stupid conventionalities... I can understand that...
Nevertheless, I am putting my invention on the line and already invited my
worst attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne and
after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see with your
own eyes that the darn thing works!

jrs

jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"J R-S" wrote in message
...
When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could
bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too
expensive.

The problem is that you do not try to share your field knowledge here.
You make misleading comments (ie: ammonia should be there in the tank!)
and claims not backed with any details or recreatable at home recipes.

You arrived here just to heal your sick and weak ego, but you got
hurt with (well deserved) criticism for your not-so-friendly aproach.
Now you are crying about "establishment crushing your", complaining
about high priced equipment, and... writing about introducing on the
market a piece of equipment yourself. What is wrong with this picture ?

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is
that common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those
benefiting with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.

Anybody with experience in keeping aquariums had a chance to see
what you have done and confirmed it is something really special ?
Because you have no experience yourself, so you do not know what
is doable and what is not in our hobby.

I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and
nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any stupid
chemical at all.

Cool! Then share your knowledge and experience if you care...
If not - what is a TRUE reason you came here ?

Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping
system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a
year.

No skimmer or built in skimmer? When will you decide on facts?

If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you
are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can
satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will be
well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean in
your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist not
to a custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask
him/her if your system is cycling products and if there is an evident
cybernetic use of nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest
pet shop and bring a nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.

And how fat of a checkbook should one have to get your magic filter ?
BTW - have you given a name to your invention yet ? Think about an "algae
scrubber".
That would be pretty magical and for sure very original... ;-)