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Take evreything with a grain of salt!
I have koi, golfish, comets, minnows, tetras, a cichlid, dainos, and guppies all in a big (700 gal) pond with tons of plants, and I haven't had them all eaten! Actually, they're growing so fast I'm having to throw them out on my compost heap in handfulls. I used to try dividing them, but they grew so fast that just wasn't cutting it. Everyone said my koi and goldfish would destroy my plants, and I've found that to be completely incorrect. I also have bettas, and while they're pretty, they haven't a goldfish's charm. Plants and fish do just fine together, as long as you have enough plants to keep everyone busy. You're wise to have faith in the fish - a few million years of evolution have left fish - especially goldfish - with plenty of gumption. 10L is fine if you keep the water clean. A little amonia/nitrate/nitrite/ph test kit - 20$ US - will tell you if you need to change the water, though you can tell just by looking at it most likely. Also, don't go crazy with chemicals - regular 1/2 water changes should be enough to keep things happy. I started with anachris, cambomba, and elodea - common cheap plants at the local fish store. It's been fine - the fich munch sometimes, but they certainltly haven't destroyed the plants. What they did destroy, now that I think of it, was the peace lily plant. The mondo grass hasn't held up to the pond algae very well, but it didn't get eaten, it just dies once the algae got going on it. Consider adding four or five neon tetras to you goldfish tank - they're tiny, and since they swim at the bottom of the tank, they'll be a fun contrast to the slow mid-water goldies. when I first started, all I could afford were dollar-store glass coffee pots. I had a golfish or tetra or a few mini platys or neons in each one - I had 6 of them in my room. It was great! They were all different, and you know a coffe pot is a LOT less than 10 gal. When I got bored of the water changes I just dumped 'em in the pond, and everybody's doing great.I think fish aren't anywhere near as delicate as hobbyosts woud have us think. Fish have lived in big cold/warm/dirty/murky ponds for a zillion years - they can put up with a surprising amount. Have FUN! No big deal. Fish + plants + clean water = happy aquarium. |
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![]() "PJ" wrote in message u... ok ill accept what you say. but im buying minature goldfish and only 2 for my 10 liter tank. There is no such thing as a "miniature" goldfish. If healthy they ALL get large. GF are not small fish. And adult can reach as much as 12" in length, including an average tail. Each adult GF eventually needs at least 20g of water. A pair would need at the least a 40gLong tank. im told they'll grow to suit the feeding quantity and the size of the bowl...im accepting that they know their buisness.. PJ Told by who? Few "know their business" as they receive almost no training before a fishnet is put in their hands. This is not true and starving them to keep them stunted, small and emaciated is cruel. It will eventually kill for deform them. Please don't listen to clerks who work in these stores because the advice they often give is wrong. Also, they're there to SELL you fish and fish supplies such as expensive medications and anti-parasitics. Please use Google and go over some websites that describe GF care and feeding. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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