beginners questions

Glassman wrote, On 5/28/2006 10:02 PM:
"froggo" wrote in message
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hi, i have just got my first tropical fish aquarium. set it up two
weeks before adding any fish and took the water sample to shop, the
advised it was ok - a little high on the nitrite side but nothing to
worry about too much.

Alot of hobbyists would say that the Nitrites should have read near zero
when you added the fish.
Sounds like the tank didn't complete it's cycle.


i have a small tank so started with 3 guppys and 4 tetras. all was
well for 3 days and then 1 one of the tetras died. i have done my own
tests for nitrite and amonia which seem ok. have done water changes of
about 5l from a 35l tank. what am i doing wrong?

I was told to feed the fish only 3 times aweek and as such so far they
have only had two feeds - they seem to eat it really quickly when i do
feed them - am i not feeding them enough perhaps? (they only get
literally a couple of flakes).

any thoughts ?

thanks

Increase the feeding to at least once a day. Twice a day is NOT
considered over-feeding.
Keep Us Posted.

NItrates smitrates, **** them do what makes your crank hard or yur
pussy drip, and get over it. I like adding oil of clove to all my
water changes.,,.,.

Easy take all the ****ing crap back and get a refucnd. Fish are for
loosers and folks that do not have a ****ing friend. Fl;ush em nowe
and save a heap of money on future purchases....... Spend a buck for
a fish, and then spend 20 bucks to save the stinking skany assed
fishes ass when yu **** up and do somehting you should not have done.
Fish keepers are loosers

So when it was set up for two weeks did it had something in it to
generate Ammonia like a snail or fish?

Because if you didn't then you just had a tank full of water doing
nothing for 2 weeks....

I use one of the modern live bacteria bottles like Stability by SeaChem
or Bio-load by Marine-land which allows you to add fish to your new
tank within 24 hours of setting your tank up.

Does anyone really wait a month before setting up a tank with fish any
more?

Read this:
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html
if you really want to wait a month.

*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"stuarth" wrote in message
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So when it was set up for two weeks did it had something in it to
generate Ammonia like a snail or fish?

Someone suggested the gravel was unclean. I can't see how he can have
nitrites with nothing alive in the tank...?!?!?!? The store clerk should
have pointed this out and made some suggestions as to finding the cause of
the nitrites before adding fish.

Does anyone really wait a month before setting up a tank with fish any
more?

Read this:
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html
if you really want to wait a month.

I add them as soon as a tank is set up and everything is running right.
There's no reason not to as long as a dechlorinator was used. Some utility
water contains a lot of gasses I read somewhere and should be allowed 24
hours to stabilize but that has not been a problem were we live.
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Aquariums since 1952.
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Who really ****ing cares in these looser groups that are not
patronized by folks that have half a sense of decency when it comes to
advising folks on fish and aquarium care...These jerks in these usenet
groups are loosers from the world of kooks, and info is extremely
sketchy at most. Go to a web based forum and get decent corret
answers.


On Mon, 29 May 2006 09:07:12 -0500, "Koi-Lo" none wrote:
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"stuarth" wrote in message
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So when it was set up for two weeks did it had something in it to
generate Ammonia like a snail or fish?

Someone suggested the gravel was unclean. I can't see how he can have
nitrites with nothing alive in the tank...?!?!?!? The store clerk should
have pointed this out and made some suggestions as to finding the cause of
the nitrites before adding fish.

Does anyone really wait a month before setting up a tank with fish any
more?

Read this:
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html
if you really want to wait a month.

I add them as soon as a tank is set up and everything is running right.
There's no reason not to as long as a dechlorinator was used. Some utility
water contains a lot of gasses I read somewhere and should be allowed 24
hours to stabilize but that has not been a problem were we live.

"Koi-Lo" none wrote in :

Someone suggested the gravel was unclean. I can't see how he can have
nitrites with nothing alive in the tank...?!?!?!? The store clerk

You don't need living things in your aquarium in order to cycle it. Any
decaying organic matter or waste will kick start the cycle. You do need a
long-term waste producer to sustain it well over time, but not to get it
started.

Old used gravel or unwashed ornaments will contain trace amounts of dead
organic material which will produce ammonia as it decays.

Bagged store bought live plant sand substrates generally come with a good
quantity of dead organic material including dead bacteria, which will
produce ammonia as it decays.

Some people add pure ammonia directly to their tank to get the cycle going.

Cat **** will cycle an aquarium--not as uncommon as you might think,
especially in aquariums that have been sitting around dry for a long while.
You could cycle it with your own urine if you're vile enough to really
consider it.

Throwing fish food into an empty aquarium will cycle it too, but you'll
have to wait for sufficient digester bacteria to accumulate before their is
significant food for nitrifying bacteria.

Probably none of these circumstances are what the original poster has
experienced, but my point is there are a lot of reasons why nitrites may be
present despite their being no fish in the tank. So long as the levels are
not very high, there is really no reason to worry about where they came
from.

Actaully when ammonia is created its from CArol Gulley aka koi lo
sneaking around and ****ting and ****ing in your ****ing tank....That
bitch will do **** like that.

On 29 May 2006 02:01:17 -0700, "stuarth" wrote:
So when it was set up for two weeks did it had something in it to
generate Ammonia like a snail or fish?

Because if you didn't then you just had a tank full of water doing
nothing for 2 weeks....

I use one of the modern live bacteria bottles like Stability by SeaChem
or Bio-load by Marine-land which allows you to add fish to your new
tank within 24 hours of setting your tank up.

Does anyone really wait a month before setting up a tank with fish any
more?

Read this:
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html
if you really want to wait a month.