Help training shy Koi

"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:34:01 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps
to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.



Thanks - I'll try and be more patient. The weather is just getting to
the point where I can indeed drink a few beers by the pond (not the
last few days though!).

I have learned over the past year or so the only thing that is more
important then water in your pond, is patience in the ponder.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:34:01 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.



Thanks - I'll try and be more patient. The weather is just getting to
the point where I can indeed drink a few beers by the pond (not the
last few days though!).
Ed

Wow! BV's method is amazingly versitile. Works for training koi too.


Jim

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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
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"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
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About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.

"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
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Wow! BV's method is amazingly versitile. Works for training koi too.
snip

It's an all purpose tool, and I decided to withdraw my patent and share it
with the world.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
. ..
Wow! BV's method is amazingly versitile. Works for training koi too.
snip

It's an all purpose tool, and I decided to withdraw my patent and share it
with the world.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Wow! BV's method is amazingly versitile. Works for training koi too.


Jim

--
____________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at: jogathon.net

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
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"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
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About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.

"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
...
About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.

NUMBER ONE RULE OF PONDING:

#1 Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality,
ammonia, nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

Now if I could only teach BV to paste that, along with his patience quote
(which is the #2 rule), I'd be a happy rec.ponder. ;o) ~ jan


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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:42:17 +0100, Edward Haworth wrote:

About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.

Cheers,
Ed

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
s.com...
NUMBER ONE RULE OF PONDING:

#1 Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality,
ammonia, nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

Now if I could only teach BV to paste that, along with his patience quote
(which is the #2 rule), I'd be a happy rec.ponder. ;o) ~ jan

ooh...I love lists...let's keep this thread alive...

1. Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve (nagging
uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality, ammonia,
nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

2. The only thing more important then water in the pond, is patience in the
ponder. Most problems can be solved by just sitting patiently and letting
nature take control. This rule is invalid unless rule #1 has been observed.

3. Algae are not bad.

You left off the beer in the hand! That's the most critical part of
patience Dude!

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The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
s.com...
NUMBER ONE RULE OF PONDING:

#1 Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality,
ammonia, nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

Now if I could only teach BV to paste that, along with his patience
quote
(which is the #2 rule), I'd be a happy rec.ponder. ;o) ~ jan

ooh...I love lists...let's keep this thread alive...

1. Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging
uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality, ammonia,
nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

2. The only thing more important then water in the pond, is patience in
the
ponder. Most problems can be solved by just sitting patiently and letting
nature take control. This rule is invalid unless rule #1 has been
observed.

3. Algae are not bad.