Wal Mart steps over a dollar to pick up a dime

From: "Crashj"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
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That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.

C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.
As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.
--
Crashj

Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. That's why the stores don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.

In article , HA HA Budys
Here wrote:

From: "Crashj"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.

C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.
As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.
--
Crashj

Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer.

Not only that, if you make a return they often charge the
manufacturer/distributor full retail for that return.


jay
Tue Aug 17, 2004




That's why the stores don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.

"HA HA Budys Here" wrote in message
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Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home
Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. That's why the stores
don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer
(especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than
sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.
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What a waste....
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"Crashj" wrote in message
k.net...
"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.
=========================================
C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure
Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.

## You just mentioned the INSURED employees! You can tell me these stores
don't carry general theft insurance. Someone is PAYING for the ponds cut up
and tossed out, along with all the things from the greenhouse that are
dumped in a huge pile behind the building for the trash truck.

As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what
taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers?

## I still say the insurance companies. Either them or the company they
bought the merchandise from. Does anyone know for sure that Wally World
EATS these losses? I'm only going by what I heard over the years from
people who worked there (and K-Mart). It's still a selfish self-interested
act on their part. Lowe's and HD mark things down as much 75% or more, and
people love it - I don't see these places going under and it's good PR.

The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.

## Yep, us too.......

Crashj
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Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?"
~~~~~~{@
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Wouldn't a (somewhat large) tube of silicone fix said hack job??

Probably wouldn't cost more than $6-10 for enough aquarium sealant....

--Bryan


On 8/17/2004 9:05 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:

Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
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I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers would
send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass
market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak season
ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the
publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The
staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but
the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the
dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or
something. I always hated that.

Although, I'm sure a return of a book w/o a cover would not have been
allowed, I wouldn't have been surprised to see someone go through our
dumpster and try it. We had a guy one time who collected receipts people
had thrown away from the trash can outside the front of the store. He went
down the street to Kinko's who happened to have VERY similar paper as our
receipt paper. He cut the receipts up and pasted them together into one big
receipt and copied it. The Kinko's manager thought that was mighty
suspicious and called us at the store to let us know what to watch for.
Sure enough, this guy comes into our store, picks the books we had in stock
that were on the receipt, off of our shelves and went up to the cashier to
ask for a refund. He ran away when we told him we knew what he had done.

I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my
little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just
toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they
were just going in the dumpster.

Lydia


"Roy" wrote in message
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Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
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Lydia wrote
After said peak season
ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the
publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The
staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but
the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the
dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or
something.

Okay, I actually know something about this.
If all those books were donated, intact or with covers torn off, to charities
or libraries then it is also the author whose work is
donated away and the author would not get paid for it.
Like a company obligating you, with no input, to work 50 hours for a charity
and not paying you for your work.
Speaking as a starving writer ;-)
(just as way of illustration, certainly not in fact!)







kathy :-)
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"Lydia" wrote in message
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I used to work at Barnes & Noble.
trim tale of evil rip off artist
Sure enough, this guy comes into our store, picks the books we had in
stock
that were on the receipt, off of our shelves and went up to the cashier to
ask for a refund. He ran away when we told him we knew what he had done.

By now you understand the cost of the book as an object is a minor part of
the expected revenue to the owners of the intellectual property, so I hope
that point is well made.
As for the rip off artists, Wal-mart is the target of the largest organized
group of thieves in the world, and it is not the mafia. The mafia stays in
one place, these are the travelers.
--
Crashj

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:23:16 GMT, "Crashj"
wrote:


"Lydia" wrote in message
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I used to work at Barnes & Noble.
trim tale of evil rip off artist
Sure enough, this guy comes into our store, picks the books we had in
stock
that were on the receipt, off of our shelves and went up to the cashier to
ask for a refund. He ran away when we told him we knew what he had done.

By now you understand the cost of the book as an object is a minor part of
the expected revenue to the owners of the intellectual property, so I hope
that point is well made.
As for the rip off artists, Wal-mart is the target of the largest organized
group of thieves in the world, and it is not the mafia. The mafia stays in
one place, these are the travelers.

For s secnd there I thought you were going to say "they are the
IRS"...

Mike Patterson
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Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
"managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
hand in hand with the clientel they serve.

So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
up things overall.

Sorry for the rant!
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