Wal Mart steps over a dollar to pick up a dime

Thanks for the update, that was interesting and instructive ;-)


kathy :-)
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Thanks for the update.

Kate

"Roy" wrote in message
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| Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
| dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
| used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
| manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
| Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
| today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
| town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
| world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
| g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
| other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
| etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
| and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
| They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
| filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
| being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
| over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
| if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
| and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
| walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
| ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
| kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
| fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
| kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"
|
| What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
| and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
| all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
| liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
| thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
| Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
| that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
| inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
| clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
| barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
| and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
| "managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
| bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
| to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
| Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
| inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
| warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
| for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
| Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
| department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
| tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
| furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
| just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
| it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
| individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
| this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
| on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
| sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
| store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
| worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
| hand in hand with the clientel they serve.
|
| So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
| certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
| have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
| introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
| up things overall.
|
| Sorry for the rant!
| Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
| Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
| I had no input whatsoever.
| Remove "nospam" from email addy.

So what you're telling us is that this was a Rosanne Rosandana story.
Nevermind
Bill

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
"managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
hand in hand with the clientel they serve.

So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
up things overall.

Sorry for the rant!
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

(Roy)

He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed.

Whatever you were told must have been done for the sake of either
entertainment, or keeping the story short. WalMart managers do not "order"
anything. Everything from how much of, and what type of stock, and where it is
displayed is decided by others, elsewhere.

As far as the summation about the rest of the retail shannanigans...
(Overworked employees, hours cut, pesky customers) U.S.A. is headed for hell in
a handbasket until we turn around this corporate infused idea that cheaper is
always better.

You can't complain about WalMart - you get exactly what you pay for in terms of
product and employee character.

"Lydia" wrote in message
...
I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers
would
send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass
market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak
season
ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to
the
publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell.
The
staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but
the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the
dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization
or
something. I always hated that.

$$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins
would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or
disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store.

I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my
little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just
toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they
were just going in the dumpster.

$$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way
the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this
merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:09:23 -0500, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote:

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===$$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins
===would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or
===disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store.
===
=== I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my
=== little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just
=== toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they
=== were just going in the dumpster.
===
===$$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way
===the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this
===merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will.


This is exactly how I feel. Our local Lowes may mark something down
but their dumpster is off limits and they never ever give anything for
free, even old pallets or broken pavers. Home Depot on the oter hand
has an area set up behind the store, and have pallets there with piles
of broken and busted merchandise like walkay pavers, edgers, plants,
busted bags of gravel and mulch with a big sign above the stuff saying
FREE.......For the most part stuff will remain laying there for a long
time, and even myself I will let a lot of stuff remain even if I could
use it "eventually"......its not like I just have to have it, and why
be selfish. Just yesterday I got 9 broken bags of cypress mulch and 11
bags of various bagged decorative stones etc, as well as a heap of
broken walk pavers.......and 8 bags of shredded tires listed as soft
playground mulch......The majority of plants and pavers and edgers I
have around my property and used in my pond construction were obtained
over time for free this way........They do not mind scratching my back
and I sure don't mind repaying the favor as I then spend more money or
at least try my best to utilize these places for any purchase I need.
I spend some serious money in Home Depot, but very little in places
like Lowes. Wal MArts reply to retreiving stuff from the dumpster is.
We do not allow it, but we are not going to make any effort to guard
our dumpster either........or go out of our way to prevent it. They
simply can't give permission to remove the stuff, but once in the
dumpster they are not going to stop you from retreiving plants etc
either..........its at this point when stuff is in the dumpster that
they met their responsibility in what their policy requires. Other
places will have you arrested for tresspassing if you dive their
dumpsters.........

I have also been known to get flowers from Wal MArts dumpster and also
from Home Depot, and take my time and nurse them back to health, and
take them and plant them at various roadway memorial markers you see
setup where people have been killed in accidents......This little act
gives me a sense of pleasure and presents no hazzard to roadways. I
have also nursed back to health a lot of plants and gave them to a
elderly care center nearby, which really made the residents
day..........I think there is much more to be gained for donating or
giving items away to be used by those less fortunate or by those that
really appreciate it even in a state of dissrepair than filling a
landfill up and increasing the bank account.

I sure did not intend for my original post to get so lengthy
especially when the only content about ponding was the fact they were
going to destroy and trash the liners..........
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"Roy" wrote in message
...
......I think there is much more to be gained for donating or
giving items away to be used by those less fortunate or by those that
really appreciate it even in a state of dissrepair than filling a
landfill up and increasing the bank account.

## Amen. )

I sure did not intend for my original post to get so lengthy
especially when the only content about ponding was the fact they were
going to destroy and trash the liners..........

## It's been an interesting thread.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
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Wal Mart was built on frugal down to earth capitalist ideas. This
brought money which brought capitalist pigs, which threw the ponds in
the trash and Wal Mart too someday. Some hungry retail wolf will eat
them like they ate others, because they are sloppy.



On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:05:08 GMT, (Roy)
wrote:

Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
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That is just plain stupid! :-(((( Why would they not sell them to you
at cost???? Bummer

Roy wrote:

Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
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As a bargain hunter to the nth degree I would hate to see this happen. But,
not knowing the numbers I cannot say how foolish this is or not. I would
suspect this policy is just for people like me - to encourage them to buy
them at retail, rollback or even clearance and not wait for 'giveaway'
pricing, lest they be gone. I am a self employed printer. All jobs are
overprinted to allow for loss during the bindery stage. I used to always
include any extras left over (instead of trashing them) untill I realized
people would order less or less frequently counting on getting some 'for
free'. What goodwill or perceived discount this made in the buying decision
is very difficult to say. However the industry pretty much follows this
rule, apparently believing the more you give away the more you are taking
out of your own pocket.
On the other hand:
Enforcement or policies may be different but just the other day I was at
Lowe's and spotted 8 planters the water lilies had been in. Again being a
bargain hunter to the nth degree I thought these would be great for future
planting. They were rectangular but were fairly deep, nice construction,
lip to grab them with and probably would not require a weight training
program to be able to pull them back out of the pond. I asked what was
going to happen with them and was told "People like you carry them out.
Take all you want". Eight seemed like a nice round number
Happy Bargain Hunting!
Bill Brister

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.