Sick fish

In article .com,
"Kellbot" wrote:

for those squeamish about whacking their beloved pets, putting them in
an old sock sometimes helps.

I used to have to kill mice for my pet snake, and I couldn't bear to
look at their cute little furry bodies and then smash them But it's
much more humane than letting my snake squeeze them until they're
paralized and then swallow them while they're still alive.

Not to mention the fact that killed mice are safer for the snake so they
don't bite the snake during constriction. :-) This comes up on the herp
list all the time.

You do know there are many websites to purchase fresh frozen mice?


altho i'm pretty sure even with a sock I couldn't do that to one of my
fish. I'd have to have one of my roomates do it, or go with the clove
oil method.

Clove oil???
Do tell? I've not seen anything about that.


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K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

A search through the NG for "clove oil" should bring up more
information, but clove oil is sold as an oral anesthetic, and
overdosing your fish with it is considered a relatively humane way to
euthanize them. It's also used in small amouts to temporarily
anesthetize them to take care of wounds.

from an older post:
"The proper dose is 1 cc of eugenol (clove oil) + 9 ccs vodka to one
gallon
of water. Or for larger fish 2cc of eugenol (clove oil) to 18cc of
vodka to
2 gallons of water. Use the same ratio of 1cc eugenol/9cc vodka for
every
gallon of water you use. Mix the clove oil and vodka together before
adding
to water. After you add the mixture to the water, place the fish in the
solution. LEAVE THE FISH IN THE SOLUTION FOR APPROX 10 MINUTES. The
results are very quick and painless."

hth.

And I have three in a 75G tank which makes for 25G/fish. More water
volume is always better when it comes to our big, loveable
poop-factories. ;-)

The ones that are about 18-20" deep and 6' (?) or so across make great
"ponds", if you can live with the kiddie graphics (i.e.: Little Mermaid
etc). At the end of the season, they are dirt cheap and usually less
than $20.

Thanks to everyone for their help. The little black GF is in the
freezer. I'll dispose of him before he gets freezer burn. After reading
through the fish illnesses I didn't think I could cure him. Presently I
have two healthy fish remaining, a pretty calico and a big fantail
white GF. Thanks again!

Jeanne

"JeanneD" wrote in message
oups.com...
They are a vertebrate. They have a brain, spinal cord and neural net
throughout their body... just like any mammal or reptile. The thing is,

a fish can't scream so how can we know it's in pain?

I guess I believe the scientists. They say no nervous system=no pain,
just a reactive system.
snip

Fish do have nervous systems.

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BV
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"Katra" wrote in message
...
snip
Too bad there is no "sleepy" chemical one can put in the water for fish?
snip

There are, http://www.unmc.edu/Education/Animal/guide/appenG8.html.


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BV
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"Kellbot" wrote in message
oups.com...
about using kiddie pools as ponds.. do you bury them? or just set them
on the ground?

I always thought one of those might make a cheap pond (since I move
every 12-24 months spending lots of cash on a nice deep pond doesn't
make much sense). But they're pretty ugly so I'd probably want to build
a little brick wall around it & fill the space with dirt or something.

There are plenty of pond designs out there above and below ground. Typically
kiddie pools are used for above ground ponds. An above ground pond has it's
limitations.

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BV
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I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.

"Lilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
The ones that are about 18-20" deep and 6' (?) or so across make great
"ponds", if you can live with the kiddie graphics (i.e.: Little Mermaid
etc). At the end of the season, they are dirt cheap and usually less
than $20.

In many areas, this won't be deep enough to protect the fish from a hard
freeze. Just keep that in mind when using one of these pools for a pond.
Also, these pools are not designed to take years and years and years of
sunlight, so they will break down and leak eventually.

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BV
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http://www.iheartmypond.com/Design/
I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.

"Lilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
And I have three in a 75G tank which makes for 25G/fish. More water
volume is always better when it comes to our big, loveable
poop-factories. ;-)


I have a nearly 3000 gallon pond with 4 koi and 5 goldies. How's that for
water to fish ratio? LOL.

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BV
Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com
http://www.iheartmypond.com/General/...BackyardPonds/
I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.