Herons

"Roy" wrote in message
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yet another with a fast kill file finger! The only requirement to get
killl filed is dissagree with the so called self professed pond gods /
goddesses. There is no discussion of things in these forums, its all
one sided Windsong, remember that, dissagree and you get rapped hard
and kill filed............
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That's life I guess. Personally, I couldn't care less who killfiles me.
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On or about 11 Jan 2005 18:20:04 -0800, "kathy" wrote
something like:

My labradors and I were able to scare a heron away
over a two day period.

"Be vewwy vewwy qwi-yet, boys, and we can sneak up on the nasty boid
in a couple of days!"
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Crashj

On or about Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:16:41 +0000 (UTC), Cichlidiot
wrote something like:

In rec.ponds kathy wrote:
My labradors and I were able to scare a heron away
over a two day period.

Don't discount the power of dogs. I saw on that Animal Planet "dog jobs"
(or maybe it was the breed profile, forget exactly) show that a fish
breeder in FL uses trained dogs to scare away migratory birds.

The dogs were also under constant
supervision by a handler

So what did the handler do? Scare off the birds!
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Crashj

On or about Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
wrote something like:

In article ,
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

Can anyone help?

I have a Heron that comes to the pond every day.

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?

Oh, an all around excellent idea. I have a big piece at the bottom of
the pond as a Winter hidey-hole. They seem to like to hide in it when
it gets really cold. The water in there does not circulate much at
all, and it is more comfortable and quiet there. I guess. Plus - no
herons.
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Crashj

My wife called me at work the other day to ask what this big white bird
was in our backyard. I asked if it was by the bond. She said yes, and I
said, "That would be a heron and it's probably dining on our goldfish."
Then she said that it had already flown away. A few minutes later she
called me back and said there were only four fish left. When I got back
late that afternoon I could see that most of the fish were hiding in the
black PVC pipe at the bottom of the pond.
I'm not sure how many the heron got, but I don't think it was many, as
I'm not sure exactly how many there were before. It didn't get too many,
though.
I've since replaced the PVC pipe with clay pipe. It's heavier.


"Crashj" wrote in message
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On or about Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
wrote something like:

In article ,
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

Can anyone help?

I have a Heron that comes to the pond every day.

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?

Oh, an all around excellent idea. I have a big piece at the bottom of
the pond as a Winter hidey-hole. They seem to like to hide in it when
it gets really cold. The water in there does not circulate much at
all, and it is more comfortable and quiet there. I guess. Plus - no
herons.
--
Crashj

In article ,
Andrew Burgess wrote:

I like Herons and have rescued them and would hate to see one killed,
but accidents can happen. I'm just wondering what the authorities feel
about the natural instincts of certain breeds of dogs?
snip

I suspect you'd be in no trouble at all. Your dog in your yard? Hardly a
crime. Now, if you shot the bird and held it down for spot to kill, that
might be an issue.

I'd imagine that you are legally responsible for everything your dog does.

I think the penalty might be different between dog kill and gun kill
but both would be guilty.


Hmmmmm... Seems like I'm going to have to call parks and wildlife to get
an answer to this one. ;-)
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K.

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see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

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"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
news

Roy's not a troll. Roy's an abusive little child who needs to have his
Internet privileges revoked.
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Like a few of the nasty arrogant people on rec.ponds who demanded my
service
be revoked? The only reason I have ever contacted someone's ISP was for
spam abuse - and never demanded their service be nuked. Why not just
by-pass the posts of people you don't like?

Carol, I have no trouble bypassing ignorant posters. However, forging your
headers to say NedraSucks goes beyond both good taste and his ISP's terms
of service. I'm happy to forward abusive email and news postings to an
ISP. If nasty arrogant people demanded your service be revoked (it must
have been while I was away), there are only three possible outcomes: they
were ignored by your ISP - because you didn't violate your TOS; you lost
your service _because_ you violated your TOS; or you lost your service
because your ISP was too ignorant to properly investigate - in which case
you needed a better ISP anyway.
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derek

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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~ Windsong ~ wrote:


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
news

Roy's not a troll. Roy's an abusive little child who needs to have his
Internet privileges revoked.
===========================
Like a few of the nasty arrogant people on rec.ponds who demanded my
service
be revoked? The only reason I have ever contacted someone's ISP was for
spam abuse - and never demanded their service be nuked. Why not just
by-pass the posts of people you don't like?

Carol, I have no trouble bypassing ignorant posters. However, forging
your
headers to say NedraSucks goes beyond both good taste and his ISP's terms
of service.

## Yes, I agree. I was unaware anyone had a problem with Nedra.

I'm happy to forward abusive email and news postings to an
ISP. If nasty arrogant people demanded your service be revoked (it must
have been while I was away),

## It was last week - two people from rec.ponds. I didn't post anything
"nasty" there. I've posted on RP since 1996 and never had a problem before
these two losers joined the group. Worse yet, they seldom post anything
themselves, especially anything of value. I think we all know they type....
need I say more?

there are only three possible outcomes: they
were ignored by your ISP - because you didn't violate your TOS; you lost
your service _because_ you violated your TOS; or you lost your service
because your ISP was too ignorant to properly investigate - in which case
you needed a better ISP anyway.

## Well I'm STILL HERE and still have the SAME ISP if that tells you
anything. I've had no problems in the 9 years we've used his services.
And he does investigate complaints. We will probably switch ISPs soon in
any case since they're bringing in DSL lines soon. :-)) This dial-up
w/satellite is the pits.
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Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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yes, herons stab fish to kill them, they also hold and wop them against the
ground/stones etc. to kill them before they eat the fish. a triangular puncture
wound is diagnostic for heron attack. OTOH, a heron is not going to stab thru a net
that is high enough off the pond. Netting is the only way to really protect fish and
it may take a bit of creativity, but it can be done and be aesthetically pleasing and
removable in the area where a closer approach is desired. Ingrid

Derek Broughton wrote:
Herons strike with a stabbing motion, so
while that isn't the mechanism they use to kill fish,



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yes, that is how they normally grab the fish. but they can and do stab the fish ...
maybe by mistake with a lower bill. the upper aspect of the fish ... the "edge" is
not suitable a target for just stabbing. Ingrid

The heron's head darts out, beak open and they "SNATCH"
the fish.


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