What's the best SALT?

I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
over.( the process should take several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
product for my tank?

Thanks

"Peter Pan" wrote in message . ..
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal.
FOWLR tank in 2002 and never had a problem.

So what would be the reason for you to change salt
when everything is working fine with no problems ?
If it ain't broken DO NOT FIX IT!

Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
to keep people from swiching salts.

The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
(I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
with mixing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
over.( the process should take several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
product for my tank?

Thanks

Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
Ocean.........

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
check it out and see what lab tests have shown....


Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
products........

Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:
Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
to keep people from swiching salts.

The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
(I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
with mixing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
over.( the process should take several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
product for my tank?

Thanks



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Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If
you don't belive me you can go around asking your LFS.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
Ocean.........

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
check it out and see what lab tests have shown....


Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
products........

Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
to keep people from swiching salts.

The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
(I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
with mixing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
over.( the process should take several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
product for my tank?

Thanks

And Instant Ocean is the best salt.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/21/2006 5:56 PM:
Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If you don't
belive me you can go around asking your LFS.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:

Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
Ocean.........

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
check it out and see what lab tests have shown....


Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
products........

Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic to keep
people from swiching salts.

The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some salt
manufactures have used in the past, or currently use (I have not
found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial clarifier). If your
salts do not, then there is no problem with mixing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR
tank in 2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not
really a good idea to change salt, but if you were to change it,
it was a very lengthy process with mixing your current salt with
the new stuff until your completly changed over.( the process
should take several months.
My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then
using Instant Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his
profits or is it really a better product for my tank?
Thanks

Hi Wayne,

The assertion that Instant Ocean is the best salt seems to run contrary
to a study published in the March, 2003 issue of Reefkeeping. Here's a
link to that article:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php

The article describes a bio-assay experiment comparing several
different salt mixes (unfortunately Kent wasn't among them) to natural
salt water by comparing the development of sea urchin larvae in each.
The article goes into great detail about the methodology, a statistical
analysis of the results, and certain inferences drawn from a chemical
analysis of the commercial products.

The bottom line of the testing was that Instant Ocean and Coralife came
out looking pretty bad, both in terms of urchin development and of the
levels of undesirable metals in the products.

Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
NSW.


Brackishly yours,

Alex

LFSs like you? please!

jrs
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If you don't
belive me you can go around asking your LFS.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
Ocean.........

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
check it out and see what lab tests have shown....


Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
products........

Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic to keep
people from swiching salts.

The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some salt
manufactures have used in the past, or currently use (I have not found
anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial clarifier). If your salts do
not, then there is no problem with mixing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank
in 2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a
good idea to change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a
very lengthy process with mixing your current salt with the new
stuff until your completly changed over.( the process should take
several months.
My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using
Instant Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or
is it really a better product for my tank?
Thanks

Kent is not IO salt. However, it is made by Aquarium Systems. Jack Kent of Kent Marine,
asked Ed Moka and Tom Frakes of AS to formulate a batch of salt and manufacture it, to
care the Kent name. One of the big differences is that IO does not have vitamins added to
the salt and Kent does. There are many seawater mixed formulas, about 150. Ed and Tom
picked one for Jack that made him happy.

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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
: Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If
: you don't belive me you can go around asking your LFS.
:
: Wayne Sallee
: Wayne's Pets
:
:
:
: Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
: Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
: what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
: salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
: Ocean.........
:
: http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
: check it out and see what lab tests have shown....
:
:
: Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
: that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
: know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
: not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
: compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
: numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
: have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
: marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
: products........
:
: Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
: generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
: other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
: create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
: already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"
:
: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee
: wrote:
:
: Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.
:
: The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
: to keep people from swiching salts.
:
: The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
: salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
: (I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
: clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
: with mixing.
:
: Wayne Sallee
: Wayne's Pets
:
:
:
: Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
: I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
: and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
: salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
: mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
: over.( the process should take several months.
:
: My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
: What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
: product for my tank?
:
: Thanks
:
:
:
:

"Peter Pan" wrote in message
. ..
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank
in 2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a
good idea to change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a
very lengthy process with mixing your current salt with the new
stuff until your completly changed over.( the process should take
several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using
Instant Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits
or is it really a better product for my tank?

He's trying to make money. With few exceptions, one salt is as good
as the next. If the salt you are using is giving you the results you
want, stick with it. I have seen many cases where people ran into
troubles mixing brands. I've been using Oceanic since it came out,
and it's doing fine for me.