Waterfalls Question

In article rs.com,
"Norm Courage" wrote:

Excellent idea, maybe a small plastic bucket, the kind with the pour spout
molded in and have the lip sit flush with the top of the first tier in the
falls !!


Might I suggest a larger pipe. My waterfall is fed from a 1600GPH into
a 1.25" pipe. I installed a 4" pipe on up a bit. This reduces the
pressure so that it doesn shoot out, it pours out. And like everyone
said, a catch basin at the top is a good idea.

Carl

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Norm,

I don't have enough room for a decent pool at the top. My solution was to
arrange several rocks right in the path of the discharge to "tame" and
spread the water before it reaches the outcrop.

M.S.Kraft

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to
seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the
helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this
?
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The Courages

Norm,

I don't have enough room for a decent pool at the top. My solution was to
arrange several rocks right in the path of the discharge to "tame" and
spread the water before it reaches the outcrop.

M.S.Kraft

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to
seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the
helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this
?
--
The Courages

When I built my very first pond, I had the same problem. I made a "manifold"
of sorts: a Tee off the feeder line, with two lengths of PVC, capped at the
ends. I drilled the PVC to give holes for the water to escape, but now -
instead of coming out of one hole (fast!) it came out of two dozen holes
(much more slowly). With a rock or two on top of it, you never even saw it.

Hope this helps.
Lee

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to
seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the
helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this
?
--
The Courages

When I built my very first pond, I had the same problem. I made a "manifold"
of sorts: a Tee off the feeder line, with two lengths of PVC, capped at the
ends. I drilled the PVC to give holes for the water to escape, but now -
instead of coming out of one hole (fast!) it came out of two dozen holes
(much more slowly). With a rock or two on top of it, you never even saw it.

Hope this helps.
Lee

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to
seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the
helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this
?
--
The Courages

Further to the above, make sure the holes are drilled on what will be the
*bottom* of the PVC, not straight out our UP! You will have a different sort
of water feature if you do that . . . G!
Lee

"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
When I built my very first pond, I had the same problem. I made a
"manifold"
of sorts: a Tee off the feeder line, with two lengths of PVC, capped at
the
ends. I drilled the PVC to give holes for the water to escape, but now -
instead of coming out of one hole (fast!) it came out of two dozen holes
(much more slowly). With a rock or two on top of it, you never even saw
it.

Hope this helps.
Lee

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to
seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the
helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the
incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered
this
?
--
The Courages

Further to the above, make sure the holes are drilled on what will be the
*bottom* of the PVC, not straight out our UP! You will have a different sort
of water feature if you do that . . . G!
Lee

"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
When I built my very first pond, I had the same problem. I made a
"manifold"
of sorts: a Tee off the feeder line, with two lengths of PVC, capped at
the
ends. I drilled the PVC to give holes for the water to escape, but now -
instead of coming out of one hole (fast!) it came out of two dozen holes
(much more slowly). With a rock or two on top of it, you never even saw
it.

Hope this helps.
Lee

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to
seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the
helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the
incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered
this
?
--
The Courages

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:40:31 GMT, "Remydog"
wrote:

Norm,

I don't have enough room for a decent pool at the top. My solution was to
arrange several rocks right in the path of the discharge to "tame" and
spread the water before it reaches the outcrop.

M.S.Kraft


That is the solution no matter how it is implemented. Remember that
whatever amount of water your pump pumps that same amount will flow
over your waterfall and/or in your stream. If the flow path is narrow
the water will flow quickly. If the flow path is wide, the water will
flow slowly.

Putting barriers in the way of the water usually forces it to flow
around the barrier in a narrow channel which will result in fast flow.
Providing a wide channel will result in slower flow.

John

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:40:31 GMT, "Remydog"
wrote:

Norm,

I don't have enough room for a decent pool at the top. My solution was to
arrange several rocks right in the path of the discharge to "tame" and
spread the water before it reaches the outcrop.

M.S.Kraft


That is the solution no matter how it is implemented. Remember that
whatever amount of water your pump pumps that same amount will flow
over your waterfall and/or in your stream. If the flow path is narrow
the water will flow quickly. If the flow path is wide, the water will
flow slowly.

Putting barriers in the way of the water usually forces it to flow
around the barrier in a narrow channel which will result in fast flow.
Providing a wide channel will result in slower flow.

John

I don't know if some of you remember, but a few months ago, I oposted a
thred about our new land and house. There is a water runoff from the
mountain and water tower overflow in our front yard now. The grader was
concerned about erosion, so took some of our LARGE rocks (4 ft square in
some cases) and laid them down in the trench (about 15-20 ft tall, at about
a 70-80 degree angle.

(Of BTW the stream pretty much dried up when the heavy rains stopped, a
month or so ago)

ANYWAY, I know great stuff is considered Da Bomb for filling gaps in smaller
falls.. do you think it would work on something this size? I got a few cans
on sale ($1 a pop!!) on clearance at wal-marts, and am thinking of trying it
out...

What we are finding, is in a heavy storm, the water is goiing under about
half of the topmost rocks, and then coming out about 1/2 way down. It looks
ok, but of course, if we could redirect it over the ones on the top, that
would be preferred. about 1/2 of the rocks there now are WAY to heavy to
move, or even budge. We are also getting a little erosion up on top, and
I'll be filling that with some of the other rocks lying around. (We have
LOTS or rocks, and some VERY pretty. Granite, pink marble, you name it, we
have it!

Also, we found pressure washing the rocks made the look MUCH nicer, but when
they dry, of course the colors look faded. Is there a recommended "coating"
for rocks to bring out the "wet look" coloring?


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