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Old April 26th 04, 07:44 PM
Lee B.
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Default How do you soften paond water?

When you say your water is "hard", what do you mean? What is your KH and GH
levels? The reason why I ask is that fish *like* hard water; so do the
biobugs in your filter. Most of us end up putting baking soda into the water
to increase the KH, especially if you have a bead type filter, which needs a
KH of over 200 in order to properly "feed" the biobugs - so that it will
function to optimum. With well water, you need to be more worried about
things like iron and sulphur - not to mention that there's no oxygen in well
water and it needs to be aerated.

But to answer your original question: initially I thought that if softened
water was good for me, it would be good for the fish. Then their coloring
started to suffer, and investigation into possible reasons led me to bypass
the softener when I do water exchanges, etc.

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften it ?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but it

is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house water
after doing an initial fill with well water.




  #2  
Old April 27th 04, 01:39 AM
Mickey
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Default How do you soften paond water?

I get a white mineral build up on everything in the pond. The iron levels in
the well water are around 25ppm enough to leave a ring of rust around
anything. The minerals also build up in plumbing and in the pump. I don't
need really soft water I would just like it if everything did not turn white
from mineral build up. I will get a sample tested to see what the numbers
are exactly.

"Lee B." wrote in message
...
When you say your water is "hard", what do you mean? What is your KH and

GH
levels? The reason why I ask is that fish *like* hard water; so do the
biobugs in your filter. Most of us end up putting baking soda into the

water
to increase the KH, especially if you have a bead type filter, which needs

a
KH of over 200 in order to properly "feed" the biobugs - so that it will
function to optimum. With well water, you need to be more worried about
things like iron and sulphur - not to mention that there's no oxygen in

well
water and it needs to be aerated.

But to answer your original question: initially I thought that if softened
water was good for me, it would be good for the fish. Then their coloring
started to suffer, and investigation into possible reasons led me to

bypass
the softener when I do water exchanges, etc.

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften it

?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but

it
is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons

of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house

water
after doing an initial fill with well water.






  #3  
Old April 27th 04, 04:20 PM
Lee B.
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Default How do you soften paond water?

The iron is a problem: do you have a degassing tower? A green sand filter
for the iron? There are folks around here that "specialize" in water - maybe
you need to open a new thread asking for help specifically with the iron
properties of your water. Do you have a water analysis from a lab that may
set forth what all is actually IN your water????

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I get a white mineral build up on everything in the pond. The iron levels

in
the well water are around 25ppm enough to leave a ring of rust around
anything. The minerals also build up in plumbing and in the pump. I don't
need really soft water I would just like it if everything did not turn

white
from mineral build up. I will get a sample tested to see what the numbers
are exactly.

"Lee B." wrote in message
...
When you say your water is "hard", what do you mean? What is your KH and

GH
levels? The reason why I ask is that fish *like* hard water; so do the
biobugs in your filter. Most of us end up putting baking soda into the

water
to increase the KH, especially if you have a bead type filter, which

needs
a
KH of over 200 in order to properly "feed" the biobugs - so that it will
function to optimum. With well water, you need to be more worried about
things like iron and sulphur - not to mention that there's no oxygen in

well
water and it needs to be aerated.

But to answer your original question: initially I thought that if

softened
water was good for me, it would be good for the fish. Then their

coloring
started to suffer, and investigation into possible reasons led me to

bypass
the softener when I do water exchanges, etc.

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften

it
?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but

it
is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons

of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house

water
after doing an initial fill with well water.








  #4  
Old April 27th 04, 04:20 PM
Lee B.
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Default How do you soften paond water?

The iron is a problem: do you have a degassing tower? A green sand filter
for the iron? There are folks around here that "specialize" in water - maybe
you need to open a new thread asking for help specifically with the iron
properties of your water. Do you have a water analysis from a lab that may
set forth what all is actually IN your water????

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I get a white mineral build up on everything in the pond. The iron levels

in
the well water are around 25ppm enough to leave a ring of rust around
anything. The minerals also build up in plumbing and in the pump. I don't
need really soft water I would just like it if everything did not turn

white
from mineral build up. I will get a sample tested to see what the numbers
are exactly.

"Lee B." wrote in message
...
When you say your water is "hard", what do you mean? What is your KH and

GH
levels? The reason why I ask is that fish *like* hard water; so do the
biobugs in your filter. Most of us end up putting baking soda into the

water
to increase the KH, especially if you have a bead type filter, which

needs
a
KH of over 200 in order to properly "feed" the biobugs - so that it will
function to optimum. With well water, you need to be more worried about
things like iron and sulphur - not to mention that there's no oxygen in

well
water and it needs to be aerated.

But to answer your original question: initially I thought that if

softened
water was good for me, it would be good for the fish. Then their

coloring
started to suffer, and investigation into possible reasons led me to

bypass
the softener when I do water exchanges, etc.

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften

it
?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but

it
is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons

of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house

water
after doing an initial fill with well water.








  #5  
Old April 27th 04, 01:39 AM
Mickey
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Default How do you soften paond water?

I get a white mineral build up on everything in the pond. The iron levels in
the well water are around 25ppm enough to leave a ring of rust around
anything. The minerals also build up in plumbing and in the pump. I don't
need really soft water I would just like it if everything did not turn white
from mineral build up. I will get a sample tested to see what the numbers
are exactly.

"Lee B." wrote in message
...
When you say your water is "hard", what do you mean? What is your KH and

GH
levels? The reason why I ask is that fish *like* hard water; so do the
biobugs in your filter. Most of us end up putting baking soda into the

water
to increase the KH, especially if you have a bead type filter, which needs

a
KH of over 200 in order to properly "feed" the biobugs - so that it will
function to optimum. With well water, you need to be more worried about
things like iron and sulphur - not to mention that there's no oxygen in

well
water and it needs to be aerated.

But to answer your original question: initially I thought that if softened
water was good for me, it would be good for the fish. Then their coloring
started to suffer, and investigation into possible reasons led me to

bypass
the softener when I do water exchanges, etc.

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften it

?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but

it
is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons

of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house

water
after doing an initial fill with well water.






  #6  
Old April 26th 04, 03:54 PM
Stephen M. Henning
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Default How do you soften paond water?

"Mickey" wrote:

I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften it ?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but it is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house water
after doing an initial fill with well water.


What makes water hard is that it just has dissolved calcium compounds in
it. Water softeners just replace the calcium with sodium which is
harmful to many living things. I would much rather have the calcium
than sodium. Calcium is beneficial to many living organisms. Softened
water is toxic to many living organisms.

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  #7  
Old April 26th 04, 07:44 PM
Lee B.
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Default How do you soften paond water?

When you say your water is "hard", what do you mean? What is your KH and GH
levels? The reason why I ask is that fish *like* hard water; so do the
biobugs in your filter. Most of us end up putting baking soda into the water
to increase the KH, especially if you have a bead type filter, which needs a
KH of over 200 in order to properly "feed" the biobugs - so that it will
function to optimum. With well water, you need to be more worried about
things like iron and sulphur - not to mention that there's no oxygen in well
water and it needs to be aerated.

But to answer your original question: initially I thought that if softened
water was good for me, it would be good for the fish. Then their coloring
started to suffer, and investigation into possible reasons led me to bypass
the softener when I do water exchanges, etc.

Lee

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I have hard well water that is not softened. Is there a way to soften it ?
have thought about using the water from the house that is softened but it

is
city water and that might get expensive fast I have about 3000 gallons of
pond water. Maybe I will start topping off the pond with soft house water
after doing an initial fill with well water.




 




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