EcoSpheres Inhumane?

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Elaine T wrote:
Stacey Whaley wrote:
I was wanting to get some opinions on the EcoSphere, initiated by NASA,
in which tiny creatures live confined in a glass ball with a little bit
of water, oxygen and a dead plant with which to feed on. (They are
definitely eye-catching.)


I honestly don't think shrimp have enough of a nervous system to
perceive confinement. The shrimp probably notice lack of oxygen or
food, but those are apparantly not lacking or they wouldn't live for
over a year.

I wonder if they notice nothing is trying to eat them?

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thewes wrote:
wow. sounds like everyone is bashing Stacey for either not thinking
practically enough and being too humane. in my opinion the world needs
more people to ask more questions like this, instead of more nasty
analytical thinkers that discourage these questions. i dont have an
opinion about these ecospheres because i dont know enough about them,
but lets not discourage people like stacey from asking questions like
this.

Huh? I don't see any nasty responses or bashing on the alt.aquaria side
of this thread. Of course, I have the local troll killfiled so maybe I
missed something. I'm surprised you would call analytical thinkers in
general nasty, though. I'd hazard a guess that you just insulted a
pretty good number of people in both cross-posted newsgroups, me included.

BTW, the website is http://www.eco-sphere.com/home.htm.

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Richard Sexton wrote:
In article ,
Elaine T wrote:

Stacey Whaley wrote:

I was wanting to get some opinions on the EcoSphere, initiated by NASA,
in which tiny creatures live confined in a glass ball with a little bit
of water, oxygen and a dead plant with which to feed on. (They are
definitely eye-catching.)


I honestly don't think shrimp have enough of a nervous system to
perceive confinement. The shrimp probably notice lack of oxygen or
food, but those are apparantly not lacking or they wouldn't live for
over a year.


I wonder if they notice nothing is trying to eat them?

If so, it's gotta be a plus for them. Of course, that assumes they have
enough of a brain to even be capable of remembering from day to day that
nobody tried to eat them the day before. ;-)

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"Gfishery" wrote in message
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Residents of downtown Tokyo would like more space too
Nobody seems to feel that their living space is inhumane.




but they always have the option to leave if they want to, instead they
CHOOSE to live there ;op

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interesting points ;o)

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wrote in message
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Are you a troll?


pot, kettle, black

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Only one person is bashing Stacey, thewes was sticking up for her.
Apparently the loudmouthed troll didn't appear in your reader.

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"MarAzul" wrote in message
news:c6bVd.36909$Tt.3527@fed1read05...
So, what you're saying is that you didn't look at the link and don't know
what we're talking about?

I followed the link and apart from the fact the orignal message appears to
be troll, the EcoSphere my LFS sells is better than the heap I saw on the
web page. Sorry, but I didn't see any type of filtration or lighting on the
linked sphere.

Doesn't matter any way whether I saw it or not, to be honest, all globe
shaped vessels for fish are bad for them for the reasons I cite in my
previous post. They are cruel IMO. Not much better than those stupid picture
frame tanks that are all the vogue of late - now that's really cruel.

Oz

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Ozdude wrote:
"MarAzul" wrote in message
news:c6bVd.36909$Tt.3527@fed1read05...
So, what you're saying is that you didn't look at the link and
don't know
what we're talking about?

I followed the link and apart from the fact the orignal message
appears to
be troll, the EcoSphere my LFS sells is better than the heap I saw on
the
web page. Sorry, but I didn't see any type of filtration or lighting
on the
linked sphere.

Doesn't matter any way whether I saw it or not, to be honest, all
globe
shaped vessels for fish are bad for them for the reasons I cite in my

previous post. They are cruel IMO. Not much better than those stupid
picture
frame tanks that are all the vogue of late - now that's really cruel.

Oz

Hello,

I am not a troll. I had a serious question to ask. I was honestly
seeking the opinion of people in regards to the EcoSphere. I'm not
quite sure yet how I gave off the impression that I am or was a troll.
There was nothing rude, mean or inconsiderate portrayed in my original
message.

Look at my posting history on Usenet and I think you'll see most of my
postings are serious material. No troll workings, here.

-Stacey

"Stacey Whaley" wrote in message
oups.com...

Apologies Stacey. I seem to have the wrong end of a couple of sticks here.

FWIW - those things look good, but that's all IMO. They look worse when they
get dirty. If you're just putting shrimps in them then I guess they would be
okay, but I wouldn't put fish in them - too cruel.

I know you're not a troll, and I apologise. Don't bite me

Oz

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