Any Swimming Pool Experts?

Had a friend recommend trying here to get a couple suggestions on a pool
problem.
My mother's pool has terrible algae stains on the vinyl liner of her
gunnite pool.
After hurricane Ivan the pool sat dormant. Now there is what I can only
assume
is algae (I am an old SPS reef tank guy) all over the bottom. I tried
scrubbing with
a stiff brush but that has just about no effect. Her neighbor is
supposed to be watching
the chemical balance, but I don't think he has a handle on it.

Is there anything I can do to get this stuff off?? Any suggested product
or technique?

One suggestion I got from another group was to put Shock in a tube sock,
tape the sock
closed and attach to the pole and rub the liner (watching for excessive
bleaching of the liner).

Here is a link to a pic. You can see it on the steps and the bottom. It
almost looks like cyano but
doesn't brush off.

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/.../algaepool.jpg

I know water testing, I just have to look up what the parameters and
what to test for.
I'm assuming Chlorine, Ph, CAL/Hardness.

Link to my reef tank Hurricane Ivan took :-(
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side4.jpg

--
Ric Seyler

RicSeyler wrote:
Had a friend recommend trying here to get a couple suggestions on a pool
problem.
My mother's pool has terrible algae stains on the vinyl liner of her
gunnite pool.

My mother gets the same thing.. (at 70 she pays little attention to it
and if I'm not around for a couple weeks blammmo!)

Don't know her pool size but my moms is 30foot kidney shape.. I would
guess that your water chemist isn't up to scratch either, that or his
test kit is old or not calibrated well most pool supply places will
test your water for a nominal fee and then sell you all sorts of stuff
you probably don't need.


... first add baking soda five or more pounds (it wont hurt to over do
it a bit)

get a real algicide algymycin works well (shock does work but not
nearly as well) after two days of that vaccuum to drain to get all the
dead algea out (it does a great job of cloging the filter). As an aside
even the highest quality stabilized chlorine can "go off" over time so
unless what you are using is new then it might be best to toss it.. or
at least add an aditional stabilizer.

then continue to watch the pH ..

or stop the chlorine all togther and just add koi ... if it was my pool
that would be my choice...grin

I would try a good vinyl liner cleaner. But I doubt you will get it all out
if its stained. At best it will make it look passable. If not it may be
easier just to stain the entire bottom of the liner a darker colour . Maybe
not possible if the bottom is contoured and not flat.

"RicSeyler" wrote in message
...
Had a friend recommend trying here to get a couple suggestions on a pool
problem.
My mother's pool has terrible algae stains on the vinyl liner of her
gunnite pool.
After hurricane Ivan the pool sat dormant. Now there is what I can only
assume
is algae (I am an old SPS reef tank guy) all over the bottom. I tried
scrubbing with
a stiff brush but that has just about no effect. Her neighbor is supposed
to be watching
the chemical balance, but I don't think he has a handle on it.

Is there anything I can do to get this stuff off?? Any suggested product
or technique?

One suggestion I got from another group was to put Shock in a tube sock,
tape the sock
closed and attach to the pole and rub the liner (watching for excessive
bleaching of the liner).

Here is a link to a pic. You can see it on the steps and the bottom. It
almost looks like cyano but
doesn't brush off.

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/.../algaepool.jpg

I know water testing, I just have to look up what the parameters and what
to test for.
I'm assuming Chlorine, Ph, CAL/Hardness.

Link to my reef tank Hurricane Ivan took :-(
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side4.jpg

--
Ric Seyler

I know water testing, I just have to look up what the parameters and
what to test for. I'm assuming Chlorine, Ph, CAL/Hardness.

Link to my reef tank Hurricane Ivan took :-(
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side4.jpg

Absolutely gorgeous! Sorry you lost it, are you planning on trying again?

Regarding Pool, this is my suggestion: http://www.kilk.com/pond/ ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:

I know water testing, I just have to look up what the parameters and
what to test for. I'm assuming Chlorine, Ph, CAL/Hardness.

Link to my reef tank Hurricane Ivan took :-(
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side4.jpg



Absolutely gorgeous! Sorry you lost it, are you planning on trying again?

I have all the equipment and the rock is sitting in a water filled trash
can. I'm in the process of
looking for a new home or a new lot to build on. Then I will put the
rock in a couple of crab traps
and let sit in the Gulf for a few months to get the bacteria back and
what ever hitchhikers that will
attach. I won't be able to get back on the island (Pensacola Beach,
Santa Rosa Island), the lots and
home prices went through the roof after Ivan, and I sold my stake in the
homestead deal I had on my
previous house below (i was in that house for 15 years). I'll have to
settle on the peninsula Gulf Breeze,
and even there the prices are still out of hand at this time. I'm just
being patient and camping in a relatives
house, Arrrrggghhh :-)

It was hard to walk out the door the last time knowing I might never see
my little fellers again,
3 years of hard work and loving care.....

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...-and-after.jpg

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...ler/porch2.jpg

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...ler/purple.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...er/shadows.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side1.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...uarterview.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side2.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side3.jpg

The little 10 gal Nano tank
http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler/tank/Nano.htm


Regarding Pool, this is my suggestion: http://www.kilk.com/pond/ ~ jan

LOLOL I agree that is really really neat!!!! All that flora and fauna in
the back yard is just too dang cool!!
What part of the country are you in? I'd sure like to do a pond also
when I get resettled. I love all of this type
a thing. I saw a reef made out of a small pool but the accumulated heat
got to the guy's project.



See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website



--
Ric Seyler

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:48:27 -0500, RicSeyler wrote:

I have all the equipment and the rock is sitting in a water filled trash
can. I will put the rock in a couple of crab traps and let sit in the Gulf
for a few months to get the bacteria back and what ever hitchhikers that will
attach.

That's a lot easier (and sounds more fun) than what people go thru inland
to have such tanks.

being patient and camping in a relatives house, Arrrrggghhh :-)

I hope your wait isn't too long.

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...-and-after.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...ler/porch2.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...ler/purple.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...er/shadows.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side1.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...uarterview.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side2.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side3.jpg

The little 10 gal Nano tank
http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler/tank/Nano.htm

Wow, impressive!!!

LOLOL I agree that is really really neat!!!! All that flora and fauna in
the back yard is just too dang cool!!
What part of the country are you in?

I'm clear in the other corner of the US. Washington State (the dry side,
though, not the WEsTside. ;-)

I'd sure like to do a pond also when I get resettled. I love all of this type
a thing.

We are Porg.

The Borg said:
"We are _Borg_ resistant is futile, you will be assimilated."
The Porg say:
"We are Porg, resistant IS futile, you will be pond-elated."

P - Pond, O - Oriented, R - Recreational, G - Group )


I saw a reef made out of a small pool but the accumulated heat
got to the guy's project.

Can happen, did he try shade cloth? There's been a discussion on here
recently regarding keeping a pond cool in AZ. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:48:27 -0500, RicSeyler wrote:





I have all the equipment and the rock is sitting in a water filled trash
can. I will put the rock in a couple of crab traps and let sit in the Gulf
for a few months to get the bacteria back and what ever hitchhikers that will
attach.



That's a lot easier (and sounds more fun) than what people go thru inland
to have such tanks.

Yea reclaiming my rock will be easier that for inlanders.




being patient and camping in a relatives house, Arrrrggghhh :-)



I hope your wait isn't too long.

Me too!! I going to kill me relatives or they kill me if it takes too
much longer. hehehehehe ;-)




http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...-and-after.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...ler/porch2.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...ler/purple.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...er/shadows.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side1.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...uarterview.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side2.jpg
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/r/...yler/side3.jpg

The little 10 gal Nano tank
http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler/tank/Nano.htm



Wow, impressive!!!

Thanks, lots of work, but lots of satisfaction also.




LOLOL I agree that is really really neat!!!! All that flora and fauna in
the back yard is just too dang cool!!
What part of the country are you in?



I'm clear in the other corner of the US. Washington State (the dry side,
though, not the WEsTside. ;-)

Very pretty area and you setup looks very nice!




I'd sure like to do a pond also when I get resettled. I love all of this type
a thing.



We are Porg.

The Borg said:
"We are _Borg_ resistant is futile, you will be assimilated."
The Porg say:
"We are Porg, resistant IS futile, you will be pond-elated."

P - Pond, O - Oriented, R - Recreational, G - Group )

LOLOL :-)





I saw a reef made out of a small pool but the accumulated heat
got to the guy's project.



Can happen, did he try shade cloth? There's been a discussion on here
recently regarding keeping a pond cool in AZ. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

He needed the full intensity of the sun for the corals at the depth, but
the "small" body of water
retained too much heat. He tried to keep it at or under 88-90, the outer
limit of most corals
for extended periods of time. But it would always end up creeping up to
95-100.....
He was in Southern Alabama.

--
Ric Seyler

I take it you live in P'cola beach area........super nice territory
there. I lived for a long time in Perdido area myself, until I had
all the hurricanes I cared to have, and moved further inland. Still
have the property in Perdido though, but now we have a camper we keep
there which can be moved if need be.......situated right on Perdido
Bay off the point near soldiers creek......So when there is a storm
that is heading that way, we take two vehicles down and pickup the
camper and the boat a 24 footer, and bring them further inland.

How did that fellow that has the sort of dome or oval shaped sputkik
looking house fair out with Ivan last year?

Ever hear of the Charter Boat Chulamar? Skippers Dive Center? I used
ot work there part time, and also as a dive master on the Chulamar,
which has been renamed to somethng else now......

Did Ft. Pickens come out ok with Ivan as well. That area is just
beautiful, especially the old fort where Geronomo (sp?) was kept.
Pretty hard to protect that area during a hurricane though, but its
been there for a long time and been through a lot.

I used to like to go over to Ft. McCrae and just tie up to that old
steel piling wall and rock jetty and kick back and watch the boats
going in and out of the pass, and do a bit of scrounging on the
bottom, looking for old bricks which got pretty rounded over with
water and sands.......and the occasional ballast stones from the old
old days.. I have a heap of those old bricks just setting around here
and there and folks often ask where I got those flat red / tan
rounded rocks!

I see your into marine setups? Are you familiar with the JBJ Nano
cubes? Been thinking on getting the wife one for our wedding
anniversary, but now hear rthy are prone to just up and cracking for
no apparaent reason. Sure hate to plunk the money down on them if its
a problem. No big deal if its only got the water in it, but once you
get it cycled and going it would be a disaster for sure.

Regards














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