New Orleans....

My heart is broken. New Orleans is my first love. St. Bernard Parish is
where I worked for 6 wonderful years with the Army National Guard. I
knew I was in for a long night when I heard that New Orleans itself was
not touched. We all know different now. I know the city will rebuild
but what of all the lives?

Nedra in Missouri

"Gareee©" wrote in message
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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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$$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I
suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for
themselves. How sad.......

I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on
you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an
evacuation there long before the hurricane hit.

$$ But if you're poor and have no car how can you leave? Maybe they didn't
have family. Picture how crowded any bus depot would be!

I lived in Orlando for 13 years, and many people just do NOT believe
anything bad can happen to them, no matter what they are told.

$$ You will always find such foolish people. I agree.

Heck, I remember a police car stopping by everyone's trailer in a trailer
park, and telling them they had a mandatory evacuation of the area, and
they told the police fine, and as soon as they left, said there was no way
in hell they were leaving.

$$ Yes, I remember people would not leave Amagansett L.I. when a storm was
headed that way in 1954 or 55. Many lived to regret it. My family was
lucky, the water didn't come as far as our summer bungalow. Other people
ran for their lives as their homes were ripped off their foundations and
tumbled like doll houses in the surge. I thought for sure we were all going
to die.

IMHO it's Darwinism at it's best. The smart survive, and the stupid
perish.

$$ To some extent this is true but I don't believe the Police had enough
manpower to evacuate all those without cars, family, close friends or money
to pay someone to evacuate them. I myself would have been out of there if I
had to WALK! Now the looters are looting the stores.... and probably any
homes still standing.

Just like the people who ran *gas generators* in their homes, and had
fires.. how stupid do you have to be to run a gasoline generator IN YOUR
HOUSE??

My pond fish are smarter then that!

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McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
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"Gareee©" wrote in message
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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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$$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I
suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for
themselves. How sad.......

I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on
you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an
evacuation there long before the hurricane hit.

20% of the people live below the poverty line. An equal number don't own
their own means of transportation, and the buses don't run out of town.
There are also a lot of elderly people living in New Orleans. Many of them
were infirmed.

" George" wrote in message
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20% of the people live below the poverty line. An equal number don't own
their own means of transportation, and the buses don't run out of town.
There are also a lot of elderly people living in New Orleans. Many of
them were infirmed.

True, but I'm not talking about people without the ability or means to
leave.. I'm talking about the idiots who stay because they *know* nothing
bad will happen.

I am a flood victim from Andrew myself from davenport Florida, and fought
flood waters for 4 months with sandbags, along with my neighbors.

I couldn't tell you how many times that I came home to a foot of water in my
living room. I remember not being able to open my car door, because water
would have flooded into it.

That was after the fact, doing damage control. At the end, Fema declared my
home unlivable and I got a nice check to get me another place, but it took
4 months of hell before they finally resolved that for me.


--
Gareee©
(Gary Tabar Jr.)
Gareee's Homepage:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm

For three years my parents lived in Baton Rouge
and we took the opportunity to visit New Orleans
several times during our visits to them.

It is a city where you feel you are right in step
with history (something you don't feel too often
in the rather new pacific northwest). I loved
that aspect of it.

Bourbon Street, however, kind of scared me.
One night my mom and I were walking around
the French Quarter at night and all of a sudden
we were in an area that we felt really out of place.
Voodoo shops and red lights in the windows!
We skeedaddled back to the tourist section real
quick!!

Also love the Cafe du Monde, down on Jackson
Square. My brother got some great black and
white pictures of the area that are still in my
familyroom.

And the food!! Wow! First time I ever tried oysters
and saw Tabasco Sauce in HUGE bottles.

I hope they can recover and maybe be able to plan
to survive if another hurricane ever hits. There will
probably be some things they will change, though with
mother nature, that isn't always possible.

kathy :-) www.blogfromthebog.com
this week's entry - blackfly
Pond 101 page for new pond keepers ~
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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$$ To some extent this is true but I don't believe the Police had enough
manpower to evacuate all those without cars, family, close friends or
money to pay someone to evacuate them. I myself would have been out of
there if I had to WALK! Now the looters are looting the stores.... and
probably any homes still standing.


Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to assist
their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S

Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S

You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.

Regards,
Herb

"Gareee©" wrote in message
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" George" wrote in message
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20% of the people live below the poverty line. An equal number don't
own their own means of transportation, and the buses don't run out of
town. There are also a lot of elderly people living in New Orleans.
Many of them were infirmed.

True, but I'm not talking about people without the ability or means to
leave.. I'm talking about the idiots who stay because they *know* nothing
bad will happen.

Likely, those were a minority of the people who did stay behind. Others
likely stayed (other than for the reasons already stated) because they
didn't want to leave their property unprotected in the aftermath. as we
have seen from the images of the looting, that may have been a good reason
in a lot of peoples minds to stay.

I am a flood victim from Andrew myself from davenport Florida, and fought
flood waters for 4 months with sandbags, along with my neighbors.

I couldn't tell you how many times that I came home to a foot of water in
my living room. I remember not being able to open my car door, because
water would have flooded into it.

That was after the fact, doing damage control. At the end, Fema declared
my home unlivable and I got a nice check to get me another place, but it
took 4 months of hell before they finally resolved that for me.


I suspect that it is going to take considerably longer than 4 months for
this disaster to be resolved.

"Herb" wrote in message
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Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S

You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.

Regards,
Herb

That is not a solution. What they need to do is evacuate everyone that is
not an emergency worker out of the disaster area. I think that is what
they are currently working to do.

"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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$$ To some extent this is true but I don't believe the Police had enough
manpower to evacuate all those without cars, family, close friends or
money to pay someone to evacuate them. I myself would have been out of
there if I had to WALK! Now the looters are looting the stores.... and
probably any homes still standing.


Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S
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From what I saw on TV there is no way the National Guard can cover every
street and back-street in these areas that are flooded and the people
evacuated. What I saw on TV were looters in a frenzy. They were like
animals running back and forth emptying the stores.... shocking!
--
McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
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