Aquarists vs Marine Biologists

"J R-S" wrote in message news
Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show you
my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the same
time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

Can I ask for a list of your previous publications ?
Maybe at least a list of journal titles ?
It would be cool to read something you wrote about
marine biology for a change... And it looks I will
never see anything like this written by you here...
So maybe you can list sci journal titles and volume
numbers I can find your articles in the library ?

lol
"Pszemol" wrote in message
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"J R-S" wrote in message
news
Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show
you my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the
same time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

Can I ask for a list of your previous publications ?
Maybe at least a list of journal titles ?
It would be cool to read something you wrote about marine biology for a
change... And it looks I will
never see anything like this written by you here...
So maybe you can list sci journal titles and volume
numbers I can find your articles in the library ?

Oh, not in Pembroke Pines anymore :-)

Yea, your not very far away now.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 9:43 PM:
Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show you
my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the same
time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

jrs
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 5:06 PM:
To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the field.
Well then that leaves you out.

You should have titled this thread "Aquarists vs Troll" because you are no
marine biologist.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could bring
hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too expensive.

The problem is that you do not try to share your field knowledge here.
You make misleading comments (ie: ammonia should be there in the tank!)
and claims not backed with any details or recreatable at home recipes.

You arrived here just to heal your sick and weak ego, but you got
hurt with (well deserved) criticism for your not-so-friendly aproach.
Now you are crying about "establishment crushing your", complaining
about high priced equipment, and... writing about introducing on the
market a piece of equipment yourself. What is wrong with this picture ?

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is that
common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those benefiting
with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.

Anybody with experience in keeping aquariums had a chance to see
what you have done and confirmed it is something really special ?
Because you have no experience yourself, so you do not know what
is doable and what is not in our hobby.

I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a bio/mech
filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and nitrites from
the water without expensive investments or any stupid chemical at all.

Cool! Then share your knowledge and experience if you care...
If not - what is a TRUE reason you came here ?

Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping system
only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a year.

No skimmer or built in skimmer? When will you decide on facts?

If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you are
getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can satisfy
your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will be well
spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean in your home
for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist not to a
custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask him/her if
your system is cycling products and if there is an evident cybernetic use of
nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest pet shop and bring a
nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.

And how fat of a checkbook should one have to get your magic filter ?
BTW -
have you given a name to your invention yet ? Think about an "algae scrubber".
That would be pretty magical and for sure very original... ;-)

Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not against
my findings. That is easily understood since I made a head-on attack to the
establishment and to stupid conventionalities... I can understand that...
Nevertheless, I am putting my invention on the line and already invited my
worst attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne and
after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see with your
own eyes that the darn thing works!

jrs

jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
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"J R-S" wrote in message
...
When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could
bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too
expensive.

The problem is that you do not try to share your field knowledge here.
You make misleading comments (ie: ammonia should be there in the tank!)
and claims not backed with any details or recreatable at home recipes.

You arrived here just to heal your sick and weak ego, but you got
hurt with (well deserved) criticism for your not-so-friendly aproach.
Now you are crying about "establishment crushing your", complaining
about high priced equipment, and... writing about introducing on the
market a piece of equipment yourself. What is wrong with this picture ?

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is
that common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those
benefiting with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.

Anybody with experience in keeping aquariums had a chance to see
what you have done and confirmed it is something really special ?
Because you have no experience yourself, so you do not know what
is doable and what is not in our hobby.

I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and
nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any stupid
chemical at all.

Cool! Then share your knowledge and experience if you care...
If not - what is a TRUE reason you came here ?

Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping
system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a
year.

No skimmer or built in skimmer? When will you decide on facts?

If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you
are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can
satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will be
well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean in
your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist not
to a custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask
him/her if your system is cycling products and if there is an evident
cybernetic use of nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest
pet shop and bring a nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.

And how fat of a checkbook should one have to get your magic filter ?
BTW - have you given a name to your invention yet ? Think about an "algae
scrubber".
That would be pretty magical and for sure very original... ;-)

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not against
my findings. That is easily understood since I made a head-on attack to the
establishment and to stupid conventionalities... I can understand that...

You know this is BS. I asked you about your findings and you did not
say anything. Then you behave like an asshole and you are very surprised
people focus on you not on the findings you do not make public...

Nevertheless, I am putting my invention on the line and already invited my
worst attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne and
after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see with your
own eyes that the darn thing works!

If your offer is real, you will post at least a list of your papers here
for everybody to see how smart you are and how much your words are worth!
Somehow I doubt this list will show up here... I do not know why ;-)

have a nice day amigo
jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
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"J R-S" wrote in message
...
Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not
against my findings. That is easily understood since I made a head-on
attack to the establishment and to stupid conventionalities... I can
understand that...

You know this is BS. I asked you about your findings and you did not
say anything. Then you behave like an asshole and you are very surprised
people focus on you not on the findings you do not make public...

Nevertheless, I am putting my invention on the line and already invited
my worst attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne
and after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see with
your own eyes that the darn thing works!

If your offer is real, you will post at least a list of your papers here
for everybody to see how smart you are and how much your words are worth!
Somehow I doubt this list will show up here... I do not know why ;-)

J R-S typed:
Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not
against my findings. That is easily understood since I made a
head-on attack to the establishment and to stupid
conventionalities... I can understand that... Nevertheless, I am
putting my invention on the line and already invited my worst
attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne and
after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see
with your own eyes that the darn thing works!
jrs

What findings??

Findings;
1. A sal****er aquarium runs just fine with a $100 illumination system per
36x17 inches of surface area. The price doubles for coral systems. Meaning
that my system is running with a simple 36" twin tube light bought at Petco
and all the parameters are fine together with my fish...
2. The effect that a $150 skimmer has can be accomplished with a simple air
pump and a few plates of plexiglass.
3. Put in series (the order I keep to myself), a calcareous media, bioballs,
Activated Carbon and a secret ingredient will reduce PO4, NH3, NO2, NO3,
control PH and restore water to a usable level WITHOUT MORE THAN 2 WATER
CHANGES A YEAR.
4. there is a lot more that my technique accomplishes but please, don't
waste your time with a poorly educated freak like me. Go to your petshop
and get what you need...

jrs
"Cindy" wrote in message
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J R-S typed:
Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not
against my findings. That is easily understood since I made a
head-on attack to the establishment and to stupid
conventionalities... I can understand that... Nevertheless, I am
putting my invention on the line and already invited my worst
attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne and
after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see
with your own eyes that the darn thing works!
jrs

What findings??

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
Findings;
1. A sal****er aquarium runs just fine with a $100 illumination system per
36x17 inches of surface area. The price doubles for coral systems. Meaning
that my system is running with a simple 36" twin tube light bought at Petco
and all the parameters are fine together with my fish...

a. since when fish require strong illumination for their health?
b. if your system is fish-only, what can you tell about the coral systems ?
c. I am sure you can make fine working fish-only system with a $40 light
fixture from Walmart/HomeDepot, so you wasted $60 for nothing... :-)

2. The effect that a $150 skimmer has can be accomplished with
a simple air pump and a few plates of plexiglass.

I would like to see that... :-))
Wayne, take his invitation and tell me how does it look like! :-))

3. Put in series (the order I keep to myself), a calcareous media, bioballs,
Activated Carbon and a secret ingredient will reduce PO4, NH3, NO2, NO3,
control PH and restore water to a usable level WITHOUT MORE THAN 2 WATER
CHANGES A YEAR.

a. how do you define "usable level"?
b. why bother with expensive bioballs if you have there sand with greater surface?
c. I know big number of aquarists and nobody complains about levels of NH3+ or NO2-
d. how long is your system running to take a valid estimate for 2 water changes per year?

4. there is a lot more that my technique accomplishes but please, don't
waste your time with a poorly educated freak like me. Go to your petshop
and get what you need...

All questions I have asked before in this subject were ignored and you said
"I want to know too much". Now you are not providing any valuable data again.
You do not say what systems you have tested your method with, for how long,
with what kind of biological load, without measurements for fish/coral growth.
I am pretty sure this time you will not provide response to these questions.
But let's see, you can always prove me wrong and answer my questions... :-)