Too many fish?

I always clean the tank with the fish still inside. The fish just swims
around, mines are very friendly and I have to sho them away from the
gravel vac so they don't get sucked up.

"Mariachi" wrote in message
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I always clean the tank with the fish still inside. The fish just swims
around, mines are very friendly and I have to sho them away from the
gravel vac so they don't get sucked up.

lol. That's what i was thinking...don't want to be sucking 'em up the
gravel vac!!

I'll leave the fish in next time i do it. Just keep my eye on the smaller
ones, just in case!!

Cheers ;-)

Jay Kaner wrote:
"Mariachi" wrote in message
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I always clean the tank with the fish still inside. The fish just swims
around, mines are very friendly and I have to sho them away from the
gravel vac so they don't get sucked up.


lol. That's what i was thinking...don't want to be sucking 'em up the
gravel vac!!

I'll leave the fish in next time i do it. Just keep my eye on the smaller
ones, just in case!!

Cheers ;-)



The bigger ones might nibble your hands...mine do....

Gill

"Jay Kaner" wrote in message
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With a bit of luck I should be getting the bigger tank soon. I'm keeping
my eyes open for one in the local classified ads and ebay for when the
right price/distance to pick up comes along.
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Also check your secondhand stores like Goodwill and the Salvation Army.
People do donate unwanted tanks to these places.
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"Jay Kaner" wrote in message
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One other question I meant to ask in that last post. When doing the water
changes and gravel cleaning is it best to remove the fish? That's what
I've been doing so far, but could this be done with the fish still in the
tank?
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NO! Just use the gravel vac, remove the water you feel you want to replace
and replace with fresh water of a close temperature. Make sure to use a
dechlorinator or something to remove chloramines.
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"Koi-Lo" wrote
"Jay Kaner" wrote

With a bit of luck I should be getting the bigger tank soon. I'm keeping
my eyes open for one in the local classified ads and ebay for when the
right price/distance to pick up comes along.
====================
Also check your secondhand stores like Goodwill and the Salvation Army.
People do donate unwanted tanks to these places.

Yeah that's a good idea. There's 5 or 6 charity shops close by and i'll
keep popping in to check.

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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Jay Kaner wrote:
"Mariachi" wrote in message
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I always clean the tank with the fish still inside. The fish just swims
around, mines are very friendly and I have to sho them away from the
gravel vac so they don't get sucked up.


lol. That's what i was thinking...don't want to be sucking 'em up the
gravel vac!!

I'll leave the fish in next time i do it. Just keep my eye on the
smaller ones, just in case!!

Cheers ;-)

The bigger ones might nibble your hands...mine do....

HA!! They do!! Well the fantail and the black moors do whenever i put my
hands in to arrange the ornaments, rocks or plants. None of the other fish
do, but those 3 always do.

My daughter (5 y/o) loves it. Those 3 will also take the fish flakes from
your fingertips at feeding time. She loves that even more...always makes
her laugh when they do it!!!!

"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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"Jay Kaner" wrote in message
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One other question I meant to ask in that last post. When doing the
water changes and gravel cleaning is it best to remove the fish? That's
what I've been doing so far, but could this be done with the fish still
in the tank?
=====================
NO!

Do you mean "no" to doing this with the fish still in the tank? Or to
removing the fish beforehand? I'm not sure which you mean.

Just use the gravel vac, remove the water you feel you want to replace and
replace with fresh water of a close temperature.

The tank takes 8 buckets of water to fill (the guy gave me the bucket that
he's always used) so what I've been doing is once a week I take the fish out
into a big bowl filled with tank water. Then I vacuum the gravel until I've
filled two buckets with the mucky water and that's it. No more than that.
Then I replace those two buckets with the same amount making sure the water
is a similar temp. Then i replace the fish and the old tank water from the
bowl that i put them in whilst i did the gravel cleaning.

Make sure to use a dechlorinator or something to remove chloramines.

I've been using the stuff the guy had been using. He had half a bottle of
'Tap Safe' left which he gave me. He said to use a capful per bucket. It
says on the bottle that it's for goldfish, but the guy said it's ok to use
with tropical fish because it hadn't harmed the betta. Would you say it
would be better to buy a tropical (assuming there is one) 'tap safe' product
rather than keep using the goldfish one?

To be fair, I've had the tank nearly 3 months and all the fish seem healthy.
So far (touch wood) we've had no casualties...tho' how much that has to do
with good luck i'm not sure. I'd rather it be down to doing the right thing
than luck, tho'!!

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:14:55 GMT, "Jay Kaner" wrote:


"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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"Jay Kaner" wrote in message
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One other question I meant to ask in that last post. When doing the
water changes and gravel cleaning is it best to remove the fish? That's
what I've been doing so far, but could this be done with the fish still
in the tank?
=====================
NO!

Do you mean "no" to doing this with the fish still in the tank? Or to
removing the fish beforehand? I'm not sure which you mean.

Just use the gravel vac, remove the water you feel you want to replace and
replace with fresh water of a close temperature.

The tank takes 8 buckets of water to fill (the guy gave me the bucket that
he's always used) so what I've been doing is once a week I take the fish out
into a big bowl filled with tank water. Then I vacuum the gravel until I've
filled two buckets with the mucky water and that's it. No more than that.
Then I replace those two buckets with the same amount making sure the water
is a similar temp. Then i replace the fish and the old tank water from the
bowl that i put them in whilst i did the gravel cleaning.

Make sure to use a dechlorinator or something to remove chloramines.

I've been using the stuff the guy had been using. He had half a bottle of
'Tap Safe' left which he gave me. He said to use a capful per bucket. It
says on the bottle that it's for goldfish, but the guy said it's ok to use
with tropical fish because it hadn't harmed the betta. Would you say it
would be better to buy a tropical (assuming there is one) 'tap safe' product
rather than keep using the goldfish one?

To be fair, I've had the tank nearly 3 months and all the fish seem healthy.
So far (touch wood) we've had no casualties...tho' how much that has to do
with good luck i'm not sure. I'd rather it be down to doing the right thing
than luck, tho'!!

You can leave the fish in the tank while you do your water change and
gravel vacuum. Two buckets is 25% of 8 buckets, and that sounds like a
good amount for one change. Interpet Tap Safe will take care of the
chlorine and chloramines in your tap water, use it as the label
directs. Welcome to the aquaria groups.

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"Mister Gardener" wrote

You can leave the fish in the tank while you do your water change and
gravel vacuum.

Ah good!! That'll make life a little bit easier. Those zebra danios are
fast and hard to catch!! It can take as long to catch all the fish as it
does to clean the tank!!

Two buckets is 25% of 8 buckets, and that sounds like a
good amount for one change. Interpet Tap Safe will take care of the
chlorine and chloramines in your tap water, use it as the label
directs.

Right. I'll keep on doing it like that then. Like i said, they all seem
happy enough. I can't wait to get another tank and start from scratch. I
really like the look of those tanks that are filled with live plants. Think
i'll go for that more natural look.

Welcome to the aquaria groups.

Thanks!! And very helpful it's been n'all. Gleaned some useful info from
some of the other posts in here too, so i'll keep subbed because, no doubt,
i'll be needing more advice as i go along!! Cheers.