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Köi-Lö $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in
: variety that a average size fish can even see. They're not the most pleasant things to raise either. Yes... dirt and moist bred... what a nightmare. |
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![]() "dc" wrote in message ... Köi-Lö $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in : would be rather unlikely. Where would that midge or mosquito have had a chance to bite or come in contact with a diseased fish? Has it been Again, you're being short sighted. A contagion or a contaminant does not have to originate from a fish to affect a fish. As I said before there are plenty of parasites (e.g. any number of digenetic trematodes) and viral diseases that use secondary hosts in order to infect tertiary hosts--a secondary host could be something like a bird or a rodent. I guess I'll worry about it if and when it happens. Since it hasn't happened in all these many years I wont worry about it. I'm more concerned with my own food being contaminated than finding contaminated larvae in old pots and tubs behind the house. snip -- KL.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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![]() "dc" wrote in message . .. No doubt... especially if it is not the exclusive food source--variety is the spice of life--but Koi-lo's assumption that the risk is absent so long as the larva are not in close contact with another sick animal is just plain wrong. ============= What diseases, parasites or "contamination" have you found in larvae on peoples porches or backyards? -- KL.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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![]() "dc" wrote in message . .. "swarvegorilla" wrote in news:44f8a6f9$0$25163 : true but with healthy fish in good condition I recon the risks of live food are out weighed by the benefits No doubt... especially if it is not the exclusive food source--variety is the spice of life--but Koi-lo's assumption that the risk is absent so long as the larva are not in close contact with another sick animal is just plain wrong. No need to convince me friend, for I am semi-wise in the vector and digenetic trematode worlds. Parasites out number us all by a large factor every food source for your fish carries with it some risk, be it brain eating prions or salmonela stuff from outdoor ponds and insect ridden buckets is just extra filthy doesn't faze me although it's a wild sight to look thru a m'scope at a slide of water from a snail breeding pond. there be some critters in there I tells ya and f'ed if I could ID many I'm sure some of them are nastys but yea those trematode things they is funky jump animal to animal like ninja chimps and often can spawn at several life stages bloody animals are filthy things at least fish aren't quite as bad as dogs tho :-) |
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I also breed snail....Apple sail I think they are called.
Any suggestions on raising the snail? I have some in a tank, some in a bucket. Would really like to hear some advice. Ron On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:17:04 +1000, "swarvegorilla" wrote: "Ron Clon" wrote in message .. . Is there much of a danger from getting bloodworms from old standing water in buckets left outside, and feeding these to fish in an aquarium? I'm unsure if there is a high potential of disease transfer or some other risk I may not know about. Any advice would be appreciated. Well, most any advice. I'd like something better than "If you are in any doubt, then you should not do it." Thanks Ron I do it but it's only the odd few hard to raise zillions of the things! I breed snails to feed me puffer and these buckets often have lots in them. |
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www.applesnail.net
is a goldmine of advice i use vege's, chookfood pellets and fish food screens for the tank tops to keep them in there for my toadfish I am breeding ramshorns, pondsnails and malaysian cones easy peasy with apples tho you need to make sure you have a pair!! trickiest bit "Ron Cliiborn" wrote in message ... I also breed snail....Apple sail I think they are called. Any suggestions on raising the snail? I have some in a tank, some in a bucket. Would really like to hear some advice. Ron On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:17:04 +1000, "swarvegorilla" wrote: "Ron Clon" wrote in message . .. Is there much of a danger from getting bloodworms from old standing water in buckets left outside, and feeding these to fish in an aquarium? I'm unsure if there is a high potential of disease transfer or some other risk I may not know about. Any advice would be appreciated. Well, most any advice. I'd like something better than "If you are in any doubt, then you should not do it." Thanks Ron I do it but it's only the odd few hard to raise zillions of the things! I breed snails to feed me puffer and these buckets often have lots in them. |
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I'm not bottom posting because the comments in this message don't tell
you what I originally posted. So, after reading all the comments from you learned folks, I got the 5 gallon bucket in question and I vacuumed the sludge from the bottom, wasting maybe 1 1/2 gallons. I filled it up with some Cl- free water and put in 3 fish. They ate everything I could see moving in a few days. Since then I am giving them a little fish food on occasion. I have not aerated the water or put in a filter and they yet live, odd. Also, I do not see any new worms. I don't know if the bugs are not laying eggs or if they just eat the bugs when they get big enough. 'ell if I know. But they have done well for about 3 weeks now. I'll probably sequester these 3 for the rest of their life rather then risk putting them back in my tank. I am sure there is no reason to worry though my wife swears the fish are now infected with The West Nile Virus. RC true but with healthy fish in good condition I recon the risks of live food are out weighed by the benefits No doubt... especially if it is not the exclusive food source--variety is the spice of life--but Koi-lo's assumption that the risk is absent so long as the larva are not in close contact with another sick animal is just plain wrong. No need to convince me friend, for I am semi-wise in the vector and digenetic trematode worlds. Parasites out number us all by a large factor every food source for your fish carries with it some risk, be it brain eating prions or salmonela stuff from outdoor ponds and insect ridden buckets is just extra filthy doesn't faze me although it's a wild sight to look thru a m'scope at a slide of water from a snail breeding pond. there be some critters in there I tells ya and f'ed if I could ID many I'm sure some of them are nastys but yea those trematode things they is funky jump animal to animal like ninja chimps and often can spawn at several life stages bloody animals are filthy things at least fish aren't quite as bad as dogs tho :-) |
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