Hot weather, no electicity

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
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"Zëbulon" wrote in message
That would be a ideal for a hobbyist with a load of tanks. We have the
type fishermen use to keep their bait alive. They run for a long time on
batter power. They cost around $5 each and have lasted for years.
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I have been buying them from a chinese supplier.
They cost me around $2 Aus each if I get a box of 25
they do last for quite a while too.
If you have an inverter you can run off a car you can power an entire fish
room.

I asked my husband if he knows what a converter is and he said YES! :-)))
I think we're going to have a decent backup here soon!

Most of my setups run off one large air pump
so this has been my panic solution up until now.

These little cheapos have been our indoor solution to the loss of power we
sometimes experience. Fortunately the blackouts seldom last very long. I'm
always concerned about the pond fish in summer when this happens. But so
far they always came through ok! We never had one to die. Pond water here
can reach the 90s (F) in summer.

I like the idea of a seperate redundency tho.
SOlar is finally getting cheap
and it's getting f'ing hot and brite here in Oz


I live in the southern part of the USA so can fully appreciate the heat and
humidity you must endure down under. It can be in the 90s for days at a
time here. The only thing solar powered we have are the outside lights
around the ponds.
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Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
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Down here in Miami Beach, Florida, [where it's in the high 70's, low
80's°F] there is a supermarket two blocks away from my home that is
open 24/7. They have their own generator to supply their electrical
needs when the power goes out, and in the past they have let me stick
some one gallon plastic milk jugs full of water in unused areas of their
freezers. You might just want to ask around to the shops, markets, and
stores that have generators and freezers if you could do the same thing.
Inside those walk-in freezers, it doesn't take but a short while before
the jugs are frozen solid. ~Dean.

"Papa Red" wrote in message
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Down here in Miami Beach, Florida, [where it's in the high 70's, low
80's°F] there is a supermarket two blocks away from my home that is
open 24/7. They have their own generator to supply their electrical
needs when the power goes out, and in the past they have let me stick
some one gallon plastic milk jugs full of water in unused areas of their
freezers. You might just want to ask around to the shops, markets, and
stores that have generators and freezers if you could do the same thing.
Inside those walk-in freezers, it doesn't take but a short while before
the jugs are frozen solid. ~Dean.
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If you lose power regularly you may want to invest in a small generator.
One just big enough to keep your tanks going plus a coffee pot and small
lamp......... ;-)

If power outages were a problem here I would definitely get a generator for
all the outdoor tanks and the 2 ponds we have.
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ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 14:42:58 -0600, Zëbulon
frothed venomeously:


"Papa Red" wrote in message
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Down here in Miami Beach, Florida, [where it's in the high 70's, low
80's°F] there is a supermarket two blocks away from my home that is
open 24/7. They have their own generator to supply their electrical
needs when the power goes out, and in the past they have let me stick
some one gallon plastic milk jugs full of water in unused areas of their
freezers. You might just want to ask around to the shops, markets, and
stores that have generators and freezers if you could do the same thing.
Inside those walk-in freezers, it doesn't take but a short while before
the jugs are frozen solid. ~Dean.
==========================
If you lose power regularly you may want to invest in a small generator.
One just big enough to keep your tanks going plus a coffee pot and small
lamp......... ;-)

If power outages were a problem here I would definitely get a generator for
all the outdoor tanks and the 2 ponds we have.


Allthe outdoor kiddie pools and mud puddles i the dirt road is what
you mean, you lying attention ho.


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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Papa Red wrote:
Down here in Miami Beach, Florida, [where it's in the high 70's, low
80's°F] there is a supermarket two blocks away from my home that is
open 24/7. They have their own generator to supply their electrical
needs when the power goes out, and in the past they have let me stick
some one gallon plastic milk jugs full of water in unused areas of their
freezers. You might just want to ask around to the shops, markets, and
stores that have generators and freezers if you could do the same thing.
Inside those walk-in freezers, it doesn't take but a short while before
the jugs are frozen solid. ~Dean.


Hi Dean,

Long time since I've seen you post....happy to see you are still around
- you are missed :-)

So back to the original post....

I think here there has to be a certain perspective as to what is
achievable or not....a generator might be an option for some
properties/budgets but not for all.....the keeping of the water cool by
your method is great.....but let me share a story from the 70s in the UK
- non fish related....

It was a time of industrial problems - electricity got rationed and we
lived through what was termed the "3 day week" - we got scheduled power
cuts which meant we could plan meals etc. around them....but sometimes
the preparation had to get done by candle - I still have a deep scar on
my finger from attempting to carve some lamb by candle light and
slipping - I was around 10 at the time....anyway that aside....my Mum's
next door neighbour was totally addicted to his TV.....he could not cope
with the 3 hours of scheduled power outs....so he used to power 3 TVs
from a car battery.....and then charge them up again ready for the next
power cut....

My point here is that you don't need an expensive solution....with a
little bit of creativity you could buy a car battery and charger and the
necessary kit to use this to convert to your normal voltage....and run
your heater, pump, air bricks etc. for a certain length of time to
survive an outage....don't ask me how to do it....all I know is that
this bloke next door used to power his TV this way while the rest of us
sat in darkness....and I'm sure that much the same thing could be done
to keep a tank going....

Gill

I am just surprised that a person living in miami florida does not
have a gen set....Harbor freight as well as BIg Lots have gen sets
more than sufficieint to power most any aquarium setup with heaters
even and a coffee maker and probbaly a light or two for under $250,
and living in Flkorida I would think it would be standard essentials.
Heck if it was only used for one hurricane for a few days it paid for
itself in convienience. Perhaps an apartment owner may have problems
with it, but a person who resides in a typical house or trailer....it
should be part of essential needs.



On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:10:24 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Papa Red wrote:
Down here in Miami Beach, Florida, [where it's in the high 70's, low
80's°F] there is a supermarket two blocks away from my home that is
open 24/7. They have their own generator to supply their electrical
needs when the power goes out, and in the past they have let me stick
some one gallon plastic milk jugs full of water in unused areas of their
freezers. You might just want to ask around to the shops, markets, and
stores that have generators and freezers if you could do the same thing.
Inside those walk-in freezers, it doesn't take but a short while before
the jugs are frozen solid. ~Dean.


Hi Dean,

Long time since I've seen you post....happy to see you are still around
- you are missed :-)

So back to the original post....

I think here there has to be a certain perspective as to what is
achievable or not....a generator might be an option for some
properties/budgets but not for all.....the keeping of the water cool by
your method is great.....but let me share a story from the 70s in the UK
- non fish related....

It was a time of industrial problems - electricity got rationed and we
lived through what was termed the "3 day week" - we got scheduled power
cuts which meant we could plan meals etc. around them....but sometimes
the preparation had to get done by candle - I still have a deep scar on
my finger from attempting to carve some lamb by candle light and
slipping - I was around 10 at the time....anyway that aside....my Mum's
next door neighbour was totally addicted to his TV.....he could not cope
with the 3 hours of scheduled power outs....so he used to power 3 TVs
from a car battery.....and then charge them up again ready for the next
power cut....

My point here is that you don't need an expensive solution....with a
little bit of creativity you could buy a car battery and charger and the
necessary kit to use this to convert to your normal voltage....and run
your heater, pump, air bricks etc. for a certain length of time to
survive an outage....don't ask me how to do it....all I know is that
this bloke next door used to power his TV this way while the rest of us
sat in darkness....and I'm sure that much the same thing could be done
to keep a tank going....

Gill



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
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In a blackout bacteria in cannister filters will quickly suffocate and
rot.
Consider giving them a clean in water drawn from the aquarium and leaving
the filter media in wet in open buckets until you get power and can
re-pack and start the cannister filter.
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I use external Aquaclears and I do the same as I would with my old Fluval
canister. After 10 to 15 minutes if the power doesn't come back on I remove
the inserts and dump the sponges and bio-bead bags in a low pan of tank
water.

We have two battery powered aerators we use both for blackouts and when
delivering fish to stores.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Zëbulon" wrote in message
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"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
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In a blackout bacteria in cannister filters will quickly suffocate and
rot.
Consider giving them a clean in water drawn from the aquarium and leaving
the filter media in wet in open buckets until you get power and can
re-pack and start the cannister filter.
==================
I use external Aquaclears and I do the same as I would with my old Fluval
canister. After 10 to 15 minutes if the power doesn't come back on I
remove the inserts and dump the sponges and bio-bead bags in a low pan of
tank water.

We have two battery powered aerators we use both for blackouts and when
delivering fish to stores.
--

I use them when bringing home species I have caught by rod and reel for my
aquariums.
One problem
have 20 going
and it sounds horrible
but yea... emergency and all

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
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"Zëbulon" wrote in message

We have two battery powered aerators we use both for blackouts and when
delivering fish to stores.
--

I use them when bringing home species I have caught by rod and reel for my
aquariums.
One problem
have 20 going
and it sounds horrible
but yea... emergency and all

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EeeeeeeeeeeK! Twenty of them at once!!!!! I would need ear plugs. ;-)
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll free pond and fish Forum:
http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/fo...ay.php?fid=104
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"Zëbulon" wrote in message
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"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"Zëbulon" wrote in message

We have two battery powered aerators we use both for blackouts and when
delivering fish to stores.
--

I use them when bringing home species I have caught by rod and reel for
my aquariums.
One problem
have 20 going
and it sounds horrible
but yea... emergency and all

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EeeeeeeeeeeK! Twenty of them at once!!!!! I would need ear plugs. ;-)
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Well you'd prob need the earplugs to block out my frantic fretting anyway.
blackouts.....
blackouts can be..... stressful times.
GO! GO! GO!!!!!


As can the dam fire fighting helicopter filling up from your garden
pond............
poor goldy
mankin' up gods filters now hey