It never ends

I have seen many so-called professionals make such statements,
although he maybe just misspoke and got ahead of himself.
Chloramines are added to the water before it is sent down line during
the treatment process. Reservoirs may have fish in them, but this
water is treated with chlorine or chloramines before going into City
water, making any cycling of reservoir water null.

Chloramines are best treated with products such as Prime or Ammo Lock
which de-toxify the ammonia (converting it from toxic NH4 to
relatively non-toxic NH3).

Here is an article about tap water:
http://aquarium-answers.blogspot.com...-i-know-about-
tap-water-for.html

Carl



On Jan 28, 8:12 pm, "Dan White" wrote:
"Zëbulon" wrote in ...







"Dan White" wrote in message
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The only way I could interpret the thing about ammonia in the drinking
water
is if he's talking about decaying organic matter in the water supply, as
in
the reservoir. We're talking very small amounts of ammonia, I would
think
too small to detect by smelling, so is it possible that the drinking
water
has the trace ammonia in it? I don't know if water treatment plants
remove
any ammonia or not.
============================
Since there are fish in reservoirs I wouldn't think there would be much
ammonia.Good point. I suppose a reservoir is cycled.

dwhite- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

carlrs wrote:

I have seen many so-called professionals make such statements,
although he maybe just misspoke and got ahead of himself.

Having been the subject of journalistic editing more than once, I agree with
the posters who've said it probably wasn't the prof, it was probably the
journalist misquoting him.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

"Tynk" wrote in news:1169922533.875504.214170
@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:

Our small, local news paper has a "Pet Talk" section. Usually it's
about dogs, cats and birds.
Last Wednesday there was a small piece about fish tanks and how "A
slimey tank isn't a bad thing", but of course..the common myths had to
fly as well.
Their info came from a "Dr. Donald Lewis, professor in the Department
of pathobiology at the College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical
Sciences at Texas A&M University".

Looks like your small local newspaper plagarized a July 2001 article
from Texas A&M's student newspaper;

http://newsarchives.tamu.edu/stories/01/070901-5.html

....lending more liklihood to the possibility of journalistic
interpretation errors (as the original article was by a student
reporter). There's a lesson here; if you're going to rip an article
off, at least know enough to decide if its a good one. Don't cheat off
of someone who's dumber than you, kids! :-)


Dr. Donald Lewis is no longer on the faculty list at the Dept. of
Verterinary Pathobiology;

http://vtpb-www.cvm.tamu.edu/people/faculty.html

Given that a Google Scholar search indicates he hasn't published since
the mid-90's (and his reccomendation of an under-gravel filter ;-) he's
probably retired.

Regards
DaveZ
Atom Weaver

On Jan 28, 2:00�pm, "cat daddy" wrote:
"Dan White" wrote in messagenews:GcmdnckCS5zqWSHYnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@comca st.com...

any ammonia or not.* *Water treatment plants add ammonia in the final stage to turn chlorine
into chloramine. But, I think the author of the article probably just mixed
up and misquoted what the professor was saying....- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

I didn't misquote the professor, and he did say other things that were
bogus as well. One other thing was running a tank filled with tap
water for a minimum of 2-3 weeks before adding fish. What for?
That one should add sea shells oyster shells to a tank to act like a
buffer and keep the water slightly more alkaline.
You just can't toss out general comments like that when everybody's
water is different. Some folks have hard, alkaline water anyway and do
not need to make it even more so.
And from what I know, adding sea shells is *not* something you want to
add to a freshwater tank anyway.
I've kept the article and have written to 2 different people from the
paper asking to whome and where do I send an article about setting up
a tank and correcting some things that were said that weren't correct.
It's already afternoon and I haven't gotten a response yet.

Zëbulon wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
news

The Prof has one thing right.... an awful lot of people set up a tank and
add fish the same day.....
==============================
There's nothing wrong with that as long as a dechlorinator is used. Or
something to remove the chloromines (sp?).

There can be a lot wrong with that. Without details of how many fish
were added, the tank's size, which types were added, and how not to
kill them in the cycling process, but that they will be damaged
anyway, etc,...you can run into major problems. So yeah, there is
something wrong with that.

On Jan 29, 11:36�am, atomweaver wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in news:1169922533.875504.214170
@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:

Our small, local news paper has a "Pet Talk" section. Usually it's
about dogs, cats and birds.
Last Wednesday there was a small piece about fish tanks and how "A
slimey tank isn't a bad thing", but of course..the common myths had to
fly as well.
Their info came from a "Dr. Donald Lewis, professor in the Department
of pathobiology at the College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical
Sciences at Texas A&M University".Looks like your small local newspaper plagarized a July 2001 article
from Texas A&M's student newspaper;

http://newsarchives.tamu.edu/stories/01/070901-5.html

...lending more liklihood to the possibility of journalistic
interpretation errors (as the original article was by a student
reporter). *There's a lesson here; if you're going to rip an article
off, at least know enough to decide if its a good one. *Don't cheat off
of someone who's dumber than you, kids! :-)

Dr. Donald Lewis is no longer on the faculty list at the Dept. of
Verterinary Pathobiology;

http://vtpb-www.cvm.tamu.edu/people/faculty.html

Given that a Google Scholar search indicates he hasn't published since
the mid-90's (and his reccomendation of an under-gravel filter ;-) he's
probably retired.

Regards
DaveZ
Atom Weaver

OOOOOO, Dave got the dirt !!
No wonder they aren't emailing me back about it, lol.
Well, forget emailing them again, I will be calling them about this.
Thanks Dave!
You're a peach. = )

On 29 Jan 2007 12:04:38 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:


Zëbulon wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
news
The Prof has one thing right.... an awful lot of people set up a tank and
add fish the same day.....
==============================
There's nothing wrong with that as long as a dechlorinator is used. Or
something to remove the chloromines (sp?).

There can be a lot wrong with that. Without details of how many fish
were added, the tank's size, which types were added, and how not to
kill them in the cycling process, but that they will be damaged
anyway, etc,...you can run into major problems. So yeah, there is
something wrong with that.


Carol has to be the most slapped down jerk on USENET that ever came
along. Is there a USENET award for being slapped down? Carol is most
definately the winner in that catagory.


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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Zëbulon wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
news

The Prof has one thing right.... an awful lot of people set up a tank
and
add fish the same day.....
==============================
There's nothing wrong with that as long as a dechlorinator is used. Or
something to remove the chloromines (sp?).

There can be a lot wrong with that. Without details of how many fish
were added, the tank's size, which types were added, and how not to
kill them in the cycling process,
but that they will be damaged
anyway, etc,...you can run into major problems. So yeah, there is
something wrong with that.
=============================
That's not what we were discussing. We were discussing if fish can be
added the FIRST day and the answer is yes. Please reread the message. But
even if you knew that, you will always disagree with anything I post for
some reason. Is it your ego perhaps?
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Yea yea yea CArol, yu got slapped down and now yuu want to incite a
need to riot and argue. YOur a loser get over it., You do not have
aclue what your talking about, yet you flap those gums of yopurs.

Slap slap slap slap......get down bitch, get down.......slap slap
slap.....when you gonna learn Carol. STFU.


On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:29:31 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
legroups.com...

Zëbulon wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
news
The Prof has one thing right.... an awful lot of people set up a tank
and
add fish the same day.....
==============================
There's nothing wrong with that as long as a dechlorinator is used. Or
something to remove the chloromines (sp?).

There can be a lot wrong with that. Without details of how many fish
were added, the tank's size, which types were added, and how not to
kill them in the cycling process,
but that they will be damaged
anyway, etc,...you can run into major problems. So yeah, there is
something wrong with that.
=============================
That's not what we were discussing. We were discussing if fish can be
added the FIRST day and the answer is yes. Please reread the message. But
even if you knew that, you will always disagree with anything I post for
some reason. Is it your ego perhaps?



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
On 29 Jan 2007 12:04:38 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

Carol has to be the most slapped down jerk on USENET that ever came
along. Is there a USENET award for being slapped down? Carol is most
definately the winner in that catagory.
================================
Prozac can help you get over your obsession with me and professional
counseling can help you get over using lies, personal attacks and
intimidation as an ego builder. Talk to
your Dr at the VA hospital about the proper medications. You can live a
normal life free of hate, lies and obsessions but you must make an
effort.

--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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