Help - sick goldfish

Jeannie wrote:
Many thanks to all for your comments and help. An update, now that I
have actually seen the fish...the redness is actually a largish lump
is just forward of the pectoral fin and only on the bottom; looks more
like a large hernia than anything else, and definitely not a skin-
disease type of thing. It's a bit smaller this morning since a 1/2
water change last evening, and the fish is perky and interested in the
(very little bit of) food we gave him.


Hi Jeannie,

There have been quite a few posts about lumps on goldfish recently on
another group that I frequent....can I suggest you go and read through
some of the threads there and see if it gives you the answer. The group
is a google group called The Freshwater Aquarium - read the thread on
"Fish Surgery" - don't get alarmed by the title....it has a lot of good
info on a similar problem.....IIRC there is another one as well so you
might need to do some browsing....

Link to TFA is:-

http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

Gill

That would be table salt, "NON" iodized or regular old aquarium salt.I
am sure on welove teaching site there is bound to be a salt ratio. I
do hope that fish is not in a 5 gal tank, except perhaps for a dip or
QT......

The triple sulfa capsules works pretty good as its a broad spectrum
antibiotic.....and covers gram positive as well as gram negative
problems



On 5 Feb 2007 16:14:51 -0800, "Jeannie" wrote:

On Feb 5, 3:51 pm, Tristan wrote:
Sounds like a bacterial infection. I would do a water change and start
it on some anti biotics.......better yet do what Dr. Solo suggests
and I am sure she will be aorund before to long.....A bit of salt may
help as well, but anti biotics are best bet. YOu can get them at most
any LFS.

What ever yu do do not pay any attentio to Carol Gulley aka Zebulon as
she is known to give out harmfull info and it could do your fish more
harm than good......YOu coulkd also go sign on to koishack.com and get
a proper answer really quick as they always have folks in the know
online...registration only takes a minute to access koishack.

Thanks...in the meantime I've also found information on
weloveteaching.com about koi, which I think are related enough to
goldfish to help.

You mention salt...is that table salt or epsom salts? How much for a
5 gallon tank?

We are starting with a water change (although it has not been that
long since the last one...we have done it once a month for years and
the fish has been fine).

Jeannie



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

If you go anti-biotic route go for the sulfas (sulfanomides) or oxy
tetracycline or any that is gram-negative effective, Gram negative
infections is most common type in fish, so any antibiotic for gram
negative would be fine.

Just doing a bit of checking and it sounds more liek the fish has what
is called aeromonas, or hemoorrhagic septicema where the skin gets red
lesions and infected around fin bases and in internal organs wicvh
can show up as a red anal area. Its usually caused by rich oprganic
water....A gold fish is a dirty fish as compared to other fish, so its
not impossible that organics have built up and a once a month water
change is no longer sufficient......Recovery is usually good if water
parameters are good and anti biotics are administered.

Lots of luck




On 5 Feb 2007 16:14:51 -0800, "Jeannie" wrote:

On Feb 5, 3:51 pm, Tristan wrote:
Sounds like a bacterial infection. I would do a water change and start
it on some anti biotics.......better yet do what Dr. Solo suggests
and I am sure she will be aorund before to long.....A bit of salt may
help as well, but anti biotics are best bet. YOu can get them at most
any LFS.

What ever yu do do not pay any attentio to Carol Gulley aka Zebulon as
she is known to give out harmfull info and it could do your fish more
harm than good......YOu coulkd also go sign on to koishack.com and get
a proper answer really quick as they always have folks in the know
online...registration only takes a minute to access koishack.

Thanks...in the meantime I've also found information on
weloveteaching.com about koi, which I think are related enough to
goldfish to help.

You mention salt...is that table salt or epsom salts? How much for a
5 gallon tank?

We are starting with a water change (although it has not been that
long since the last one...we have done it once a month for years and
the fish has been fine).

Jeannie



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Just look at your own records.......I make one single post and CArol
manages to make an additional 6 posts without saying a ****ing thing,
as well as drag in Ed Alston and a few others to make a single post
into a post contianining at least 10+ additional posts and all without
say8ing a worthwhile thng. You all belong in the bozo
bin..........Please do me the honors........So who really trashes and
trolls the groups.....Its not Jabbers or Tristan its Ed Alstonand
CArol Gulley and whatever dreges they can drag in along with them in
their jihad...too ****ing losers from the git go.Carol Gulley and Ed
Alston...


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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Roy "Tristan" Hauer wrote in message
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What ever yu do do not pay any attentio to Carol Gulley aka Zebulon as
she is known to give out harmfull info and it could do your fish more
harm than good......YOu coulkd also go sign on to koishack.com and get
a proper answer really quick as they always have folks in the know
online...registration only takes a minute to access koishack.
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You really need to get over your obsession with "Carol" before you have a
complete psychotic episode again. Slandering people doesn't make you the
hero you want people to see you as. You look like a fool. Please call the
VA hospital and get back into treatment before you hurt yourself or someone
else.

Remember what Gill said: "I hope that noone demeans themselves to troll
this thread.....that would
make them the lowest of the low IMO....."

You manage to troll every thread and demean yourself in people's eyes.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Jeannie" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi, my daughter has an 11-year-old orange-and-white goldfish (feeder
type, not koi) who seems to be on his last...fins. He has been
sleeping tail-up between regular activity periods, and now she says
his whole rear end is red. He has no fungus or rot symptoms, and has
had a couple of episodes of a 'lump' on one side of his body/tail area
which we assumed was constipation, but she has seen him poop as
recently as yesterday and the lump seems to be smaller.

What might be causing of the redness?
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I had one like this to die and when I opened it up it was packed with eggs.
Evidently since it was unable to spawn and didn't reabsorb the eggs they
reached a size to cause a fatal condition. I'm not saying that's what your
fish is suffering from but the symptoms are the same as you describe them.
You can check www.koivet.com , a site run by a licensed veterinarian. Also
Google goldfish+diseases.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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