constant algae

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?
Your reply was filled with nonsense that had nothing to do with
anything *I* said to you.
Your comment about vacuuming the gravel was that you had recently told
somebody *not* to vacuum during a cycle, which I then pointed out to
you that No, it was right to do so as the nitrifying bacteria adhere
to all surfaces and wouldn't come loose during the vac.
You are trying to twist things around, as usual. I'm not buying it and
anyone who read that thread knows you said that too.
This is so very common of you and it is getting boring, and taking up
too much space.
Stop doing all of this on here and reply (If you feel the need) to me
via email, AND DO NOT TAKE ANYMORE SPACE HERE ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!!!
Stop wasting space with this.

"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

Zebulon, Koi-Lo, Uncle Zed, and all the rest of the names you use.....

Just one last thing I've noticed about you and where you post.
I access this group via Google and it lists all the groups you post
to, and the names which you post in (many).
All you do, in all of these groups is argue and cause problems.
I, on the other hand, am simply correcting your errors, or completing
incomplete info you leave on here.
I only have this one screen name, as I have no need to hide behind
several names.
Many of the regs and the highly knowledgeable hobbyists either have
you killfiled or won't even come here anymore because of YOU.
That leaves only a few brave people who will acutally put up with the
crap you put us through when you need to be corrected or finish giving
the info you neglected to.
Don't tell me to put you in my killfile, as you are the one that needs
help with your info. Not always, but over the years it has been often.
You are quite knowledgeable when it comes to Goldfish. I give you all
the credit you deserve there. But when it comes to some other things,
not so much.
It takes a big person to say ok...I did not know that, and learn from
it instead of constantly arguing the same lame information.
Being that you are not that type of person, you don't ever learn. You
refuse to and then argue about it.
I hope this group becomes moderated soon too.
You don't want that to happen to this or the other groups because you
know you will be gone and will have nothing to do with your time.
I for one, can't wait.
The moderated groups I post at are wonderful!
The Freshwater Aquarium group is where all the most knowledgeable
folks that used to post here went to because of you.
That says so much. Every one is sick of your arguing.
Once again, if you want to reply to me DO IT VIA EMAIL!
My email address is right there. You have NO NEED to reply to me here.
If you do, you're a moron.

On Feb 16, 4:06�pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

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On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?

Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. *Since I placed her
in mine *(along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. *Every once in a while I have to adjust it to take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct. By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.
Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.
You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.

And its best to kill filter on email addy if it works or not than name
anyhow if kill filters are your choice.
I know I would not be posting anything off topic if it was not for
her incessant need to twist or turn things around and troll totally
innocent groups like she does in the marine reef group just to
supposedly pay folks back for what she deems attacks and
stalking......Glad you seen it for your self. I personally have not
made 99% of rthe posts that has my name behind it.

Only reason her email doe snot work is she does not want to be
contacted or tracked down......thats why she is always nym shifting
and swapping out news servers.....My email is however perfectly
functional, always was always will be, and I return emails too!

Regards





On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:52:50 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 10:11?am, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

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On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:





"Tristan" wrote in message

.. . On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did
make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong
or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his
point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)

==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))

NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!

Bad memory going on or what!?
You have been replied to countless times for giving out bad, false or
incomplete information over the years.

Really? Like the bad advice I gave that you can indeed vacuum the entire
bottom of the tank and there will no ammonia surge? Oh that was BAD advice
at the time right Tynk? Real bad but now we know I was REIGHT since the
bacteria stick to the gravel as I think YOU yourself pointed out recently.
So what was considered BAD advice several years ago is GOOD advice now. :-)
Oh, and what of those undergravel filters I dumped years ago? I was told
that was BAD advice and now that's GOOD advice.... LOL!!! Give it a rest
Tynk.

If you want to argue this point, do it by emailing me directly! Stop
posting this crap on here!

Roy reposted it on rec.ponds and cross-posted it - speak to him about it.
Why tell me? I didn't bring this post up, he did.

If you don't have a question or some valid information about fish,
don't post it here.

Tell Roy.... he brought it up and cross-posted it.

Your reply was just another example of you bait a person into an
argument.
DO IT VIA EMAIL, NOT HERE!

Please complain to the man who dragged this all up to cause just this kind
of aggravation for us both. I forgot all about this message. Are you afraid
to confront him and ask him to stop dragging up your old messages? Expect
him to drag up even more of your past messages.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 4:06?pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?

Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her

==============[ quote ]====================================
Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct. By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.
Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.
You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.
=============[ end quote ]===================================

I understand and appreciate why you are doing it, but there comes a point of
diminishing returns if it just sounds like the two of you are arguing (and
admittedly I'm no innocent, I've been involved in flame wars that could melt
diamonds). Anyone just stumbling upon the group at that time wouldn't know
which one was the credible party.
If you don't want to ignore her bad advice, countering it with the truth (as
you do) is fine. But you will do your frustration level a big favor by
ignoring her rants.

I pretty much had her pegged after reading no more then 4 of her posts, so I
think you will find that new readers of the group might not have as much
trouble as you think doing the same. One of the main caveats of USENET has
always been to read a group for a while before posting so as to figure out
the mores and morays (pun intended) of the group, and, by extrapolation,
figure out who are the signal producers and who are just the ******s that
produce noise.

Best,
Don
--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?

What part don't YOU understand and why are you always so rude? I didn't
repost your message = Tristan did.

What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?

No, but you must be to think I'm Roy Tristan Hauer who reposted your
message - and why are you always so rude and nasty?

snip
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 4:06�pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?

Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to
take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt
like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct.

* You've asked to provide PROOF of your accusations and have yet to provide
any. Nor any proof of any harm anything I posted here did to anyone's fish.
You left for the moderated group so why are you still here being RUDE to me?

By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.

* Where is the proof? What deadly advice did I give someone?

Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.

* I know that.

You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Zebulon, Koi-Lo, Uncle Zed, and all the rest of the names you use.....

Better learn to read headers Tynk. Make sure before you accuse. Why are
you back here when you fled to a moderated forum?

Just one last thing I've noticed about you and where you post.
I access this group via Google and it lists all the groups you post
to, and the names which you post in (many).

Oh really....... Roy "Tristan" Hauer proved and admitted the messages were
not from my account right on a reef group. Do don't want to hear that do
you?

All you do, in all of these groups is argue and cause problems.

What are YOU doing now? Pot Tynk calling Kettle Zebulon black? When I
posted here about my bettas and we had a disagreement you have been a bitch
to me ever since! You've been just as rude to other posters so playing miss
innocent wont get it.

I, on the other hand, am simply correcting your errors, or completing
incomplete info you leave on here.

What's an error for you may not be an error for me since I'm sure we don't
have the same fish, the same tanks, the same set-ups. What works for you
may not work for me and vice versa. remember the deal with the UGFs and
Vacuuming the entire gravel bed. Oh man.... was I ever told I was WRONG
back then. Geeze... I've been proven to be RIGHT and you never mention that
or toss that back at me... I wonder why?

Why don't you acknowledge this Tynk? Why is it you're allowed to be as rude
to people as you please but I'm supposed to be meek and mild, passive and
never but never defend my position - which has been proven CORRECT in time?

snip
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.

Ok not going to bother replying to the rest but believe me it is very
easy to get in touch with Tynk via the valid email address she uses here
(afterall she has no need to hide from anything - like a few others of
us don't either).....I suggest you open one of her messages and then cut
and paste the "from" info.....write your email and hit send.....if it is
abusive then maybe she will do what most sane people do and ignore
it....if not, then as she invited you to mail her I'm reasonably sure
that she will respond.....However, one word of warning - Tynk actually
has a real life that doesn't revolve around Usenet every second of her
waking day - so there might be a bit of a delay in getting a reply
(sometimes days or weeks but that is entirely reasonable).....but then
the same applies to all of us who have a real life as well....If your
emails to Tynk bounce it is just because you have made a typo....

Gill