freshwater plants question

Evidently you must have lots of spare time on your hands too to be
able to attain the weight you are would take considerable time at the
dinner table or in fro t of a refridgerator..Are you still (In your
own words not mine) wider than you are tall) Sounds like your proud to
be so huge and plump......and yes the flour trick does
work........and its Mr. Roy to you!

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:12:29 GMT, "Tara Legale"
wrote:

"Don Freeman" wrote
Sigh... And we were doing so well for awhile.


I've never done anything to you people. Its just that someone in particular
likes to cyberstalk people like me from group to group. Obviously someone
with way too much attention on their hands, and obviously someone with no
clue about the person they are harassing. I killfiled that "Roy" (and
other names) jerk long ago, I only saw this because people replied to his
posts. Really, pick better people to reply to then that stalker.






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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"Tara Legale" wrote in message
...
"Don Freeman" wrote
Sigh... And we were doing so well for awhile.


I've never done anything to you people. Its just that someone in
particular likes to cyberstalk people like me from group to group.

Yes, his name is Roy Hauer. He also uses the nyms Roy or Tristan. He also
impersonates other posters, myself included, to post smut and xxx-rated
garbage to trash these groups. Hard as it is, try to ignore him. He will
try to say whatever he thinks will hurt you the most and do you the most
harm. He's sadistic and cruel, a true sociopath.

Obviously someone
with way too much attention on their hands, and obviously someone with no
clue about the person they are harassing. I killfiled that "Roy" (and
other names) jerk long ago, I only saw this because people replied to his
posts. Really, pick better people to reply to then that stalker.

If EVERYONE on these groups would ignore these trolls they might go away.
But they post an occasional sensible post and people reply as thought they
were a sensible normal person........ sigh,..... so the troll stays. Once
they know they're in everyone's killfile they usually look for better
trolling fields.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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I feel I ashen my money with Flourish Excel. It fabricated no aberration one way or the other. I got the best after-effects from the tabs placed in the gravel under the plants and apparent Flourish. Excel isn't a fertilizer and it didn't kill algae in any of my tanks as some humans claim. Continue the water changes.

"Tara Legale" wrote in message
...
I just got an order of plants from That Fish Place, very happy with them.
I have several corkscrew vals, 2 rad___ (something) swords, 2 dwarf onion
plants and a moss ball. I only have a 10 gallon, so these amount of
plants give a very nice, moderately lush setting for my community tank. I
have a 125 penguin biowheel filter. And I use 2 (20 watt) compact
fluorescent bulbs. Having said that I hope my filteration and wattage is
adequate because I'm not an expert. Now onto my concern about caring for
these plants. I have limited funds, time and expertise so I want to make
the best of the plant quality. I'm not going to go out and buy an
expensive complicated co2 thingy. Currently I have plant tabs and I also
have florish excel. Given all this info, what would you suggest in my
plant care? Thanks!
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Get a "complete fertilizer" type liquid at your local pet shop. Pet
Supermarket and PetsMart carry them in my area. Or go to the Foster & Smith
online site and see what they have. That's where I get mine.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

Tara Legale wrote:
I just got an order of plants from That Fish Place, very happy with them. I
have several corkscrew vals, 2 rad___ (something) swords, 2 dwarf onion
plants and a moss ball. I only have a 10 gallon, so these amount of plants
give a very nice, moderately lush setting for my community tank. I have a
125 penguin biowheel filter. And I use 2 (20 watt) compact fluorescent
bulbs. Having said that I hope my filteration and wattage is adequate
because I'm not an expert. Now onto my concern about caring for these
plants. I have limited funds, time and expertise so I want to make the best
of the plant quality. I'm not going to go out and buy an expensive
complicated co2 thingy. Currently I have plant tabs and I also have florish
excel. Given all this info, what would you suggest in my plant care?
Thanks!


Sounds like a nice selection of plants......the vals should send out
side shoots eventually and spread nicely across the tank......Can't
comment on the lighting really as I'm no expert but it should be
adequate for most plants - you might have a problem with the red plants
as these often require a higher light intensity...

As for encouraging the plant growth it sounds like you have got it
sussed for now - I don't use CO2 either but do use Flourish Excel in one
of my tanks - I've been dosing weekly with the water change, not quite
as per the instructions on the bottle but it works for me. One thing
that I have found is that I've never had a problem with algae in the
tank where I do use it......It is in the same location where I had an
algea ridden 4 foot tank so it's not down to direct sunlight......The
theory with plants and adding ferts and CO2/Flourish Excel is that by
promoting the growth higher level plants the algae gets starved
out....Of course you will still get the green spot stuff on the glass....

As for water changes if you are happy with your water quality then your
current regime should be fine - the plants will help keep the good water
quality and reduce phosphates and nitrates naturally (so in fact improve
it).....Personally I would say increasing the water change frequency
would have a negative impact rather than a positive one on the plants -
I do weekly changes on my tanks that sometimes creeps up to
fortnightly.....Just one thing to add on the water changes, and that is
making the assumption that you gravel vac at the same time, is be
careful vaccuuming around the plant roots....in fact the roots of the
plants should help keep the gravel cleaner and aerated anyhow.....

Gill

I used to buy plants, only to have them dissolve and die off in my 120L
tank. Better lighting and flourish excel, combined with a better choice
of plants bought on-line has worked wonders. Algae (which I didn't
really have a problem with to begin) has all but disappeared. I do a 15%
change every week, skipping one in every four weeks. Fewer water changes
are better for plants, worse for fish. It's all about finding the
balance that works for your setup. I dose with flourish 3 times weekly.

HTH,
Rob.

Thank you for your feedback, Jaden.

Gill, thank you for your lengthy response. I appreciate your feedback.

Go to this link to see a picture of my tank:
http://www.knack.com/thank.jpg

I also have 5 white clouds in it and a pleco... however, note that the
large fancy goldfish is just temorarily in this tank as I set up a second
tank. I know he is way too big for this tank with all the other smaller
fish I have. He's a beauty though, and 5 years old now.

Tara Legale wrote:
Go to this link to see a picture of my tank:
http://www.knack.com/thank.jpg

I also have 5 white clouds in it and a pleco... however, note that the
large fancy goldfish is just temorarily in this tank as I set up a second
tank. I know he is way too big for this tank with all the other smaller
fish I have. He's a beauty though, and 5 years old now.



Tara......what a lovely fish......it is very difficult when it comes to
having a great fish who is doing well and balancing it with
space.....but there is little else in the tank......so best of
luck....maybe up your water changes a bit to weekly.....goldfish can be
quite mucky IIRC from my goldfish keeping days.....

Gill
Also chatting fish troll free at
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium - come and take a
look....