First fish suggestions...

Pszemol wrote on 6/25/2007 3:35 PM:
"KurtG" wrote in message
.. .
Aroon wrote:
I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

I'd go for a lawnmower blenny. He'll help with algae control and what
he lacks in beauty he'll make up for with lots of personality.

I have heard stories about this blenny being aggressive towards other fish.


This usually is not a problem, but one thing that is
more of a problem is that they like to bury the
corals in sand sometimes.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Broiled snapper is good! But then again so is Grilled Skamp or
Grouper.........batter dipped shrimp, boiled lobster and a ton of
butter.......my god dude just look at a menu and decide!

IMNSHO snapper is always good unless someone by the name of TYNK is
connected to the other side of it! Then its best to stick to ho's
devores.......



On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:58:40 -0000, Aroon
wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

This is my first SW tank, having kept small and big fw tanks all my
life. Tank cycled for a month, and i started added critters last week.

The current inhabitats are hermit crabs (10 red legged), snails (1
turbo and 5 bumble bee), and an Emerald crab.
I had a surge of algae a week after my tank finished cycling, and am
trying to get this under control with these cleaners. I would like to
add fish soon.

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I thought it would be a good idea to start with a reasonably priced,
hardy fish to start.

I have 50 lbs of live rock in a 58g. all my nitrogen params are
stable, and where they should be.

Temp is 82, ph 8.4, alk 2.6, calcium 450.

If you have any suggestions, I would be interested in hearing friom
you.

Thanks, Aroon

The first fish should be a very sturdy species such as the Neopomacentrus
cyanomos, the Regal Demoiselle, they are adapted to survive in a wide range
of parameters fluctuations. Any damselfish is fine but I found this species
to tolerate better than any other.
For starter they are great.
In following replies to your post the Lawnmower Blenny was suggested but
after a few years experimenting with controling nitrates naturaly in my
tank, I found that vegetarians contribute more to increase levels of
nitrates in your tank.
You see, the nitrogen cycle changes ammonnia to nitrites, both toxic, then
the nitrites get transformed to nitrates. On this stage is when nitrogen is
less toxic and easily absorbed by algae. If a Blenny is to eat the algae,
it gets transformed again to Ammonnia and the cycle starts again. The best
way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your tank is to harvest algae
manually not to have the vegetarians turn them back into the cycle.
Blennies are great fish and will eat almost any flake food. I have to keep
a refugium where I extract the algae myself.
Another sturdy species is the Clarks Clownfish.

iy
"Aroon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

This is my first SW tank, having kept small and big fw tanks all my
life. Tank cycled for a month, and i started added critters last week.

The current inhabitats are hermit crabs (10 red legged), snails (1
turbo and 5 bumble bee), and an Emerald crab.
I had a surge of algae a week after my tank finished cycling, and am
trying to get this under control with these cleaners. I would like to
add fish soon.

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I thought it would be a good idea to start with a reasonably priced,
hardy fish to start.

I have 50 lbs of live rock in a 58g. all my nitrogen params are
stable, and where they should be.

Temp is 82, ph 8.4, alk 2.6, calcium 450.

If you have any suggestions, I would be interested in hearing friom
you.

Thanks, Aroon

Having algae eaters in the aquarium is good. The
more you can make the aquarium work for you, the
better. The idea of not putting algae eaters in an
aquarium so that you can remove the algae yourself
is absurd. If one wants to set up a refugium set
that up for the purpose of algae extract, that's
find and dandy, but not putting algae eaters in the
reef tank so that you can manually remove the algae
is absurd.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Inabón Yunes wrote on 6/25/2007 9:29 PM:
In following replies to your post the Lawnmower Blenny was suggested but
after a few years experimenting with controling nitrates naturaly in my
tank, I found that vegetarians contribute more to increase levels of
nitrates in your tank.
You see, the nitrogen cycle changes ammonnia to nitrites, both toxic, then
the nitrites get transformed to nitrates. On this stage is when nitrogen is
less toxic and easily absorbed by algae. If a Blenny is to eat the algae,
it gets transformed again to Ammonnia and the cycle starts again. The best
way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your tank is to harvest algae
manually not to have the vegetarians turn them back into the cycle.
Blennies are great fish and will eat almost any flake food. I have to keep
a refugium where I extract the algae myself.
Another sturdy species is the Clarks Clownfish.

iy
"Aroon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

This is my first SW tank, having kept small and big fw tanks all my
life. Tank cycled for a month, and i started added critters last week.

The current inhabitats are hermit crabs (10 red legged), snails (1
turbo and 5 bumble bee), and an Emerald crab.
I had a surge of algae a week after my tank finished cycling, and am
trying to get this under control with these cleaners. I would like to
add fish soon.

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I thought it would be a good idea to start with a reasonably priced,
hardy fish to start.

I have 50 lbs of live rock in a 58g. all my nitrogen params are
stable, and where they should be.

Temp is 82, ph 8.4, alk 2.6, calcium 450.

If you have any suggestions, I would be interested in hearing friom
you.

Thanks, Aroon

You misunderstood my post, as usual...
Read again his question and my answer.
I know, I know, you are slow but, what can we do?
Actually, read the subject of this post, poor Wayne.
iy
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Having algae eaters in the aquarium is good. The more you can make the
aquarium work for you, the better. The idea of not putting algae eaters in
an aquarium so that you can remove the algae yourself is absurd. If one
wants to set up a refugium set that up for the purpose of algae extract,
that's find and dandy, but not putting algae eaters in the reef tank so
that you can manually remove the algae is absurd.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Inabón Yunes wrote on 6/25/2007 9:29 PM:
In following replies to your post the Lawnmower Blenny was suggested but
after a few years experimenting with controling nitrates naturaly in my
tank, I found that vegetarians contribute more to increase levels of
nitrates in your tank.
You see, the nitrogen cycle changes ammonnia to nitrites, both toxic,
then the nitrites get transformed to nitrates. On this stage is when
nitrogen is less toxic and easily absorbed by algae. If a Blenny is to
eat the algae, it gets transformed again to Ammonnia and the cycle starts
again. The best way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your tank is to
harvest algae manually not to have the vegetarians turn them back into
the cycle.
Blennies are great fish and will eat almost any flake food. I have to
keep a refugium where I extract the algae myself.
Another sturdy species is the Clarks Clownfish.

iy
"Aroon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

This is my first SW tank, having kept small and big fw tanks all my
life. Tank cycled for a month, and i started added critters last week.

The current inhabitats are hermit crabs (10 red legged), snails (1
turbo and 5 bumble bee), and an Emerald crab.
I had a surge of algae a week after my tank finished cycling, and am
trying to get this under control with these cleaners. I would like to
add fish soon.

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I thought it would be a good idea to start with a reasonably priced,
hardy fish to start.

I have 50 lbs of live rock in a 58g. all my nitrogen params are
stable, and where they should be.

Temp is 82, ph 8.4, alk 2.6, calcium 450.

If you have any suggestions, I would be interested in hearing friom
you.

Thanks, Aroon

I understood your post perfectly. You said

"The best
way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your tank is
to harvest algae
manually not to have the vegetarians turn them back
into the cycle."

It's too bad that you have not realized that the
algae grazers' poop helps encourage denitrification
in the sand bed. And helps to feed the fauna in the
sand bed.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Inabón Yunes wrote on 6/26/2007 8:20 PM:
You misunderstood my post, as usual...
Read again his question and my answer.
I know, I know, you are slow but, what can we do?
Actually, read the subject of this post, poor Wayne.
iy
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Having algae eaters in the aquarium is good. The more you can make the
aquarium work for you, the better. The idea of not putting algae eaters in
an aquarium so that you can remove the algae yourself is absurd. If one
wants to set up a refugium set that up for the purpose of algae extract,
that's find and dandy, but not putting algae eaters in the reef tank so
that you can manually remove the algae is absurd.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Inabón Yunes wrote on 6/25/2007 9:29 PM:
In following replies to your post the Lawnmower Blenny was suggested but
after a few years experimenting with controling nitrates naturaly in my
tank, I found that vegetarians contribute more to increase levels of
nitrates in your tank.
You see, the nitrogen cycle changes ammonnia to nitrites, both toxic,
then the nitrites get transformed to nitrates. On this stage is when
nitrogen is less toxic and easily absorbed by algae. If a Blenny is to
eat the algae, it gets transformed again to Ammonnia and the cycle starts
again. The best way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your tank is to
harvest algae manually not to have the vegetarians turn them back into
the cycle.
Blennies are great fish and will eat almost any flake food. I have to
keep a refugium where I extract the algae myself.
Another sturdy species is the Clarks Clownfish.

iy
"Aroon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

This is my first SW tank, having kept small and big fw tanks all my
life. Tank cycled for a month, and i started added critters last week.

The current inhabitats are hermit crabs (10 red legged), snails (1
turbo and 5 bumble bee), and an Emerald crab.
I had a surge of algae a week after my tank finished cycling, and am
trying to get this under control with these cleaners. I would like to
add fish soon.

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I thought it would be a good idea to start with a reasonably priced,
hardy fish to start.

I have 50 lbs of live rock in a 58g. all my nitrogen params are
stable, and where they should be.

Temp is 82, ph 8.4, alk 2.6, calcium 450.

If you have any suggestions, I would be interested in hearing friom
you.

Thanks, Aroon

Your lack of knowledge on how the Nitrogen cycle works is legendary in this
forum.
I am not going to argue with such a person. I felt tempted to give you the
necessary information to answer your ignorance but, heck, I charge people
for that. Read more and get out of Wayne's World for a change.
iy
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
I understood your post perfectly. You said

"The best
way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your tank is to harvest algae
manually not to have the vegetarians turn them back into the cycle."

It's too bad that you have not realized that the algae grazers' poop helps
encourage denitrification in the sand bed. And helps to feed the fauna in
the sand bed.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Inabón Yunes wrote on 6/26/2007 8:20 PM:
You misunderstood my post, as usual...
Read again his question and my answer.
I know, I know, you are slow but, what can we do?
Actually, read the subject of this post, poor Wayne.
iy
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Having algae eaters in the aquarium is good. The more you can make the
aquarium work for you, the better. The idea of not putting algae eaters
in an aquarium so that you can remove the algae yourself is absurd. If
one wants to set up a refugium set that up for the purpose of algae
extract, that's find and dandy, but not putting algae eaters in the reef
tank so that you can manually remove the algae is absurd.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Inabón Yunes wrote on 6/25/2007 9:29 PM:
In following replies to your post the Lawnmower Blenny was suggested
but after a few years experimenting with controling nitrates naturaly
in my tank, I found that vegetarians contribute more to increase levels
of nitrates in your tank.
You see, the nitrogen cycle changes ammonnia to nitrites, both toxic,
then the nitrites get transformed to nitrates. On this stage is when
nitrogen is less toxic and easily absorbed by algae. If a Blenny is to
eat the algae, it gets transformed again to Ammonnia and the cycle
starts again. The best way to get rid of unwanted nitrogen in your
tank is to harvest algae manually not to have the vegetarians turn them
back into the cycle.
Blennies are great fish and will eat almost any flake food. I have to
keep a refugium where I extract the algae myself.
Another sturdy species is the Clarks Clownfish.

iy
"Aroon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has a suggestion for a cool first fish
to add to my sal****er tank.

This is my first SW tank, having kept small and big fw tanks all my
life. Tank cycled for a month, and i started added critters last week.

The current inhabitats are hermit crabs (10 red legged), snails (1
turbo and 5 bumble bee), and an Emerald crab.
I had a surge of algae a week after my tank finished cycling, and am
trying to get this under control with these cleaners. I would like to
add fish soon.

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I thought it would be a good idea to start with a reasonably priced,
hardy fish to start.

I have 50 lbs of live rock in a 58g. all my nitrogen params are
stable, and where they should be.

Temp is 82, ph 8.4, alk 2.6, calcium 450.

If you have any suggestions, I would be interested in hearing friom
you.

Thanks, Aroon

Aroon wrote:

My near-term goal (next 6-months) is to add 1 clown fish, 1 goby, and
1 six line wrasse.

I would put the goby in first, since they tend to be friendly fish. Something
like an orange diamond goby would be a nice one, but perhaps a bit large for
your tank. I like firefish, but you would want several of those if you go that
route. I would add the wrasse last. Note that the six-line may be aggressive and
may munch on some corals.

http://www.marinedepotlive.com/fish--gobies.html
http://www.marinedepotlive.com/fish--clowns.html
http://www.marinedepotlive.com/fish--wrasses.html

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.