Advice sought from Pond People

SjT wrote:
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And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

I don't think my website is going to be very helpful, but it does have
pics of several stages of building the pond.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...wPondPage.html

The lining doesn't get its creases out; the water pressure flattens them
and algae covers the whole thing, so you won't be aware of them.

I hope things start working out smoothly for you.

Ruth Kazez

p.s. Crossposting to football isn't a good idea.

SjT wrote:
.......
And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

I don't think my website is going to be very helpful, but it does have
pics of several stages of building the pond.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...wPondPage.html

The lining doesn't get its creases out; the water pressure flattens them
and algae covers the whole thing, so you won't be aware of them.

I hope things start working out smoothly for you.

Ruth Kazez

p.s. Crossposting to football isn't a good idea.

"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

This is a typical problem when the pond is not level. As a result you have a
high side and a low side. You can solve this problem in a number of ways.

1) Tear the pond out and re-do it. Be sure to level the pond edge either
using a waterlevel, or my preference, a nice straight 2x4 and a carpenters
level. A level hole can be filled to the rim, hiding your liner.

2) Use floating or emergent plants in the are of the visible liner, and use
a piece of fishing line across the pond to keep the plants in that area. The
fishing line will be invisible and the dense plant growth will hide the
liner.

3) Plant terrestrial plants that cascade. I have an area of visible liner on
my VF. I planted some mint about that area, and by mid-spring, you can't see
anything but cascades of green leaves, in search of the pond water below.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

With an odd-shaped pond this is nearly impossible to avoid. Embrace it.
Allow it to get covered in algae and become part of the pond surface.

I am not happy

Most Porgs are constantly changing their pond. Don't be unhappy, be driven
to make it better.

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?
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If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

My site is Iheartmypond.com. It is not as extensive as some of the others
(YET!) but it's getting there.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Once you get it level using one of the methods cited, take the edge, dig it
out about 1' back from the pond, 6"-1' down, lay the liner into the
resulting L set the brick into the L and you will be able to fill your pond
to the rim with no exposed liner.....
_______soil
^^^^^^^(^^^I
( Brick Space
_(__I
I
I
Pond


"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

I am not happy

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?

And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out

Once you get it level using one of the methods cited, take the edge, dig it
out about 1' back from the pond, 6"-1' down, lay the liner into the
resulting L set the brick into the L and you will be able to fill your pond
to the rim with no exposed liner.....
_______soil
^^^^^^^(^^^I
( Brick Space
_(__I
I
I
Pond


"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

I am not happy

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?

And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:24:43 GMT, (SjT) wrote:

My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

snip

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out


Hello,

My pond is built on a slight "slope" and I have used half submerged
rocks to hide the liner at the back of it. You can see my pond at the
website below (click on The Garden Pond or My Own Pond),

Best wishes,
Karl
http://jump.to/gardenponds
http://www.karlbaker.freeserve.co.uk

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:24:43 GMT, (SjT) wrote:

My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

snip

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out


Hello,

My pond is built on a slight "slope" and I have used half submerged
rocks to hide the liner at the back of it. You can see my pond at the
website below (click on The Garden Pond or My Own Pond),

Best wishes,
Karl
http://jump.to/gardenponds
http://www.karlbaker.freeserve.co.uk

Lovely Pond, Karl! How you must enjoy it ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Karl" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:24:43 GMT, (SjT) wrote:

My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

snip

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out


Hello,

My pond is built on a slight "slope" and I have used half submerged
rocks to hide the liner at the back of it. You can see my pond at the
website below (click on The Garden Pond or My Own Pond),

Best wishes,
Karl
http://jump.to/gardenponds
http://www.karlbaker.freeserve.co.uk

Go to your local hardware store and buy a line level and a ball of string
that does not stretch. You can suspend the line level on the string above
the pond and find out just much you have to bring up the low side. Put a
series of stakes around the pond higher than you know you need to go. run
the string across with this little level on it and when the bubble is in the
middle mark the stake at the height you need to bring the low side up to.

I had the same problem when I built my pond and built a dirt/rock berm for
the low side but have since put in a retaining wall to get rid of the rocks.
It was always a guessing game as to whether I would fall into or out of the
pond while doing maintenance.

Good luck and let us know how you make out.


"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

I am not happy

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?

And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out

Go to your local hardware store and buy a line level and a ball of string
that does not stretch. You can suspend the line level on the string above
the pond and find out just much you have to bring up the low side. Put a
series of stakes around the pond higher than you know you need to go. run
the string across with this little level on it and when the bubble is in the
middle mark the stake at the height you need to bring the low side up to.

I had the same problem when I built my pond and built a dirt/rock berm for
the low side but have since put in a retaining wall to get rid of the rocks.
It was always a guessing game as to whether I would fall into or out of the
pond while doing maintenance.

Good luck and let us know how you make out.


"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

I am not happy

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?

And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out