Herons

"Katra" wrote in message
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"kathy" wrote:

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The device is called a Heron Scarer.

kathy :-)


Cool! :-)

I've never shopped Froogle before.

Obviously Herons are a huge universal problem if they make products
specifically for them eh?
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And in the end only bird netting works. :-(
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"kathy" wrote in message
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The device is called a Heron Scarer.
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The herons will learn to fish from right next to the scarer so they don't
get sprinkled. They land and come up behind it. Herons are very
intelligent birds/predators. It's another temporary waste of money where
herons are concerned. If the hose pops or leaks and you're asleep or away
from home for the day, you're water bill will be sky high. Also these water
scarers are useless against King Fishers, fish eating snakes, fish eating
turtles and fish eating bullfrogs.
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"kathy" wrote in message
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Go here
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The device is called a Heron Scarer.
=========================
The herons will learn to fish from right next to the scarer so they don't
get sprinkled. They land and come up behind it. Herons are very
intelligent birds/predators. It's another temporary waste of money where
herons are concerned. If the hose pops or leaks and you're asleep or away
from home for the day, you're water bill will be sky high. Also these
water scarers are useless against King Fishers, fish eating snakes, fish
eating turtles and fish eating bullfrogs.

But Carol, netting isn't any use against most of those, either.
--
derek

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
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~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

Can anyone help? I am a new Koi keeper, I put my first six Koi into my
newly built pond in November. 10 days ago when I wend down to feed
them there were only five Koi and three of my gold fish had also gone.
I have a Heron that comes to the pond every day. I have tried putting
a fake Heron at the side of the pond but the real one keeps coming
back. Any ideas on how I can get rid of it? Also since the fish went
missing the other Koi and gold fish in the pond will no longer come up
to the surface. They sit on the bottom of the pond all the time and
wont feed. Any advice would be appreciated.

I swear by the motion sprinkler, but you may have to put netting up for
awhile, since the heron has fed. Most deterrents work best before the bird
has been rewarded. And if Kathy didn't mention it in her list, fake fish,
drives them insane. ~ jan



Where do you get fish decoys???

That sounds like a marvelous idea!

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?


I put 3 pieces of 8" black plastic corrugated pipe in my pond, about 2
feet long. Used a torch to soften the cut edges before dropping in,
and put a few small stones in each to keep them on the bottom.

I've seen them in there after a heron visited this summer, so I think
it works.

YMMV
Mike


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"Mike Patterson" wrote in message
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I've seen them in there after a heron visited this summer, so I think
it works.
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Trust me. It doesn't. The herons will stand as still as death until the
fish forget it's there and venture out - then the heron strikes. I watched
and saw it happen from my dining room window. We were replacing koi monthly
and it was both heart breaking and expensive. I tried everything, then
finally got the fine, strong black bird netting. We never lost another
fish. The net also works with the other fish predators in many areas.
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"Katra" wrote in message
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Where do you get fish decoys???

$ There was a place online that sold them. However I stumbled upon mine in
a store in Atlanta GA for $1.99 each. :-) Keep in mind that herons are
very intelligent so this is only a temporary deterrent.

That sounds like a marvelous idea!

$ Until you can get netting - it is.

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?

$ Mine didn't. The heron waits, as still as death, until the fish finally
sneak out - then they get the fish.
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"Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway."
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
wrote:

Can anyone help? I am a new Koi keeper, I put my first six Koi into my
newly built pond in November. 10 days ago when I wend down to feed
them there were only five Koi and three of my gold fish had also gone.
I have a Heron that comes to the pond every day. I have tried putting
a fake Heron at the side of the pond but the real one keeps coming
back. Any ideas on how I can get rid of it? Also since the fish went
missing the other Koi and gold fish in the pond will no longer come up
to the surface. They sit on the bottom of the pond all the time and
wont feed. Any advice would be appreciated.

I swear by the motion sprinkler, but you may have to put netting up for
awhile, since the heron has fed. Most deterrents work best before the bird
has been rewarded. And if Kathy didn't mention it in her list, fake fish,
drives them insane. ~ jan

Where do you get fish decoys???

The really cheap ones you can get at www.aqua-mart.com, but there are
fancier version too. I haven't checked around, and the above website may
have them too. You could do a google search on fake fish heron scarer to
find the best prices, if someone here hasn't purchased them recently.

From personal experience, one club member said he had a good time watching
while the heron coming to his pond was total frustrated. ;o) ~ jan

That sounds like a marvelous idea!

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
wrote:
From personal experience, one club member said he had a good time watching
while the heron coming to his pond was total frustrated. ;o) ~ jan
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I also had a good time watching our herons and the fake koi. But then,
smart predators that they are, they quickly learned which were fake and
ignored them in favor of the real koi and GF.
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"Katra" wrote:

In article ,
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

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Where do you get fish decoys???

/snip


When any of my fish go belly up, I just have them stuffed, waterproofed and
put back in the pond attached to a small anchor.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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In article ,
San Diego Joe wrote:

"Katra" wrote:

In article ,
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

snip

Where do you get fish decoys???

/snip


When any of my fish go belly up, I just have them stuffed, waterproofed and
put back in the pond attached to a small anchor.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.


Now that is an interesting idea!!!
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