Controlling tank temps in the summer

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over 10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it will pull the hot air up out of the house.

"winddancir" wrote in message
. ..

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


--
winddancir

"It's only June" is what is worrying me. The house does get hot even when
temps haven't got to extremes but we haven't started to see a summer yet. I
thought it would be best to do this posting so that I can plan for any
further problems when things really heat up. I've had some really great
hints and advice - thanks everyone :-)

We generally open everything up in the summer to bring down the temps to
make it bearable for us humans. This is my first year of having to do it for
fish as well. Air con would be wonderful but that would be a major
undertaking - the house and walls are extremely solid....I'm looking into
fans and at least one air con unit for the conservatory (where remarkably I
have the coolest tank).

Apart from the sad losses we had in my son's tank with the stuck on heater
all the other fish seem to be coping so far.....but I want to be prepared
for if it really warms up (doesn't happen often over here hence our lack of
methods of coping with it)

Thanks again
Gill

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:31:12 +0100, winddancir
wrote:


It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


It helps if the temp goes below 70 F AND there is a wind. I live in
West Texas and I do have central A/C, but the electric bill is big!
So, I look for ways to reduce the A/C active time. It takes a while
for outside temps to go down, but I have an outside air temperature
monitor. When the temp goes down I open windows around the house and
go back to sleep. I find that if there is no wind, opening the
windows doesn't help.

I lived in California most of my life. In my last house I bought and
installed a "whole house fan." I mounted it in the kitchen ceiling.
It was about 3 feet in diameter. I joked the house would levitate
while the fan was on. Of course windows must be open, the fan drew
fresh air from the attic and exhausted through the open windows.

dick

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:36:27 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"winddancir" wrote in message
...

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


--
winddancir

"It's only June" is what is worrying me. The house does get hot even when
temps haven't got to extremes but we haven't started to see a summer yet. I
thought it would be best to do this posting so that I can plan for any
further problems when things really heat up. I've had some really great
hints and advice - thanks everyone :-)

We generally open everything up in the summer to bring down the temps to
make it bearable for us humans. This is my first year of having to do it for
fish as well. Air con would be wonderful but that would be a major
undertaking - the house and walls are extremely solid....I'm looking into
fans and at least one air con unit for the conservatory (where remarkably I
have the coolest tank).

Apart from the sad losses we had in my son's tank with the stuck on heater
all the other fish seem to be coping so far.....but I want to be prepared
for if it really warms up (doesn't happen often over here hence our lack of
methods of coping with it)

Thanks again
Gill


"walls are extremely solid"? My house is build of adobe with concrete
covering the adobe bricks. Even the inner walls are adobe and
concrete. Are you talking that kind of "solid"?

Solid is good to slow temperature changes and solid is bad because it
slows temperature changes. That resistance to change is fine to
moderate, that is slow down, temperature changes, but for me it is a
disadvantage. Summer heat varies form an average low of 58F to an
average high of 91F. That high can go over 100 some days. So,
cooling is needed all day. In dry areas, low humidity, so called
"swamp coolers" or "evaporative coolers are adequate, but do little
good except provide moving air when humidity rises. I had a central
"swamp cooler" in Los Angeles, Ca. that worked pretty well. Just
moving air helps.

The whole house fan I mentioned in windancir's post, that I used in
San Jose, Calif. kept the air moving and was quite helpful. However,
I added window A/C units in my bedroom and living room later. I
didn't like the noise of the A/C units, but I felt much more
comfortable. Not to mention, the A/C noise "masked" the neighborhood
noises. Some families "beat the heat" by living out doors. I did not
like their living noises intruding on my low noise life. I did have
a 50 gal tank for a couple of years in San Jose, but, sorry to say, I
didn't pay much attention to its temperature. I guess keeping me
comfortable kept it livable for I had no problems.

One problem with all efforts to keep aquarium tempertures stable is
the dependence on stable electricity. Here the "solid walls" can help
to ride out an electrical outage for an hour or so, but no good for
long outages and it takes longer to pull the temperature back down
when the electricity comes back on.

Therer are risks to all of our efforts. Some methods are more
esthetic (look better). Thus the A/C leaves the tanks looking as they
always do, where as taking off the light hood and mounting a fan to
cool the tank by evaporation takes away the main point of having fish.
But, A/C is noisy and expensive.

Good luck to all of us! g

dick

"Dick" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:31:12 +0100, winddancir

I lived in California most of my life. In my last house I bought and
installed a "whole house fan." I mounted it in the kitchen ceiling.
It was about 3 feet in diameter. I joked the house would levitate
while the fan was on. Of course windows must be open, the fan drew
fresh air from the attic and exhausted through the open windows.

dick

Just like a big computer case :-)

Peter

"Dick" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:36:27 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"winddancir" wrote in
message
...

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


--
winddancir

"It's only June" is what is worrying me. The house does get hot even when
temps haven't got to extremes but we haven't started to see a summer yet.
I
thought it would be best to do this posting so that I can plan for any
further problems when things really heat up. I've had some really great
hints and advice - thanks everyone :-)

We generally open everything up in the summer to bring down the temps to
make it bearable for us humans. This is my first year of having to do it
for
fish as well. Air con would be wonderful but that would be a major
undertaking - the house and walls are extremely solid....I'm looking into
fans and at least one air con unit for the conservatory (where remarkably
I
have the coolest tank).

Apart from the sad losses we had in my son's tank with the stuck on
heater
all the other fish seem to be coping so far.....but I want to be prepared
for if it really warms up (doesn't happen often over here hence our lack
of
methods of coping with it)

Thanks again
Gill


"walls are extremely solid"? My house is build of adobe with concrete
covering the adobe bricks. Even the inner walls are adobe and
concrete. Are you talking that kind of "solid"?

Solid is good to slow temperature changes and solid is bad because it
slows temperature changes. That resistance to change is fine to
moderate, that is slow down, temperature changes, but for me it is a
disadvantage. Summer heat varies form an average low of 58F to an
average high of 91F. That high can go over 100 some days. So,
cooling is needed all day. In dry areas, low humidity, so called
"swamp coolers" or "evaporative coolers are adequate, but do little
good except provide moving air when humidity rises. I had a central
"swamp cooler" in Los Angeles, Ca. that worked pretty well. Just
moving air helps.

The whole house fan I mentioned in windancir's post, that I used in
San Jose, Calif. kept the air moving and was quite helpful. However,
I added window A/C units in my bedroom and living room later. I
didn't like the noise of the A/C units, but I felt much more
comfortable. Not to mention, the A/C noise "masked" the neighborhood
noises. Some families "beat the heat" by living out doors. I did not
like their living noises intruding on my low noise life. I did have
a 50 gal tank for a couple of years in San Jose, but, sorry to say, I
didn't pay much attention to its temperature. I guess keeping me
comfortable kept it livable for I had no problems.

One problem with all efforts to keep aquarium tempertures stable is
the dependence on stable electricity. Here the "solid walls" can help
to ride out an electrical outage for an hour or so, but no good for
long outages and it takes longer to pull the temperature back down
when the electricity comes back on.

Therer are risks to all of our efforts. Some methods are more
esthetic (look better). Thus the A/C leaves the tanks looking as they
always do, where as taking off the light hood and mounting a fan to
cool the tank by evaporation takes away the main point of having fish.
But, A/C is noisy and expensive.

Good luck to all of us! g

dick

House is brick, cavity wall insulation and then breeze blocks which are then
plastered. Very few of the interior walls are plaster board as we discovered
when we were chanelling out for cables and again when we had some
re-modelling work done - they are breeze block as well which is then
plastered. So it holds in the heat - great in winter but not the best in
summer.

I have really appreciated the ideas.....BTW I don't think aircon would be a
patch on all the computers we have running in here - lol

Thanks again
Gill

Gill Passman wrote:
"Dick" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:36:27 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"winddancir" wrote in

message

om...

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


--
winddancir

"It's only June" is what is worrying me. The house does get hot even when
temps haven't got to extremes but we haven't started to see a summer yet.

I

thought it would be best to do this posting so that I can plan for any
further problems when things really heat up. I've had some really great
hints and advice - thanks everyone :-)

We generally open everything up in the summer to bring down the temps to
make it bearable for us humans. This is my first year of having to do it

for

fish as well. Air con would be wonderful but that would be a major
undertaking - the house and walls are extremely solid....I'm looking into
fans and at least one air con unit for the conservatory (where remarkably

I

have the coolest tank).

Apart from the sad losses we had in my son's tank with the stuck on

heater

all the other fish seem to be coping so far.....but I want to be prepared
for if it really warms up (doesn't happen often over here hence our lack

of

methods of coping with it)

Thanks again
Gill



"walls are extremely solid"? My house is build of adobe with concrete
covering the adobe bricks. Even the inner walls are adobe and
concrete. Are you talking that kind of "solid"?

Solid is good to slow temperature changes and solid is bad because it
slows temperature changes. That resistance to change is fine to
moderate, that is slow down, temperature changes, but for me it is a
disadvantage. Summer heat varies form an average low of 58F to an
average high of 91F. That high can go over 100 some days. So,
cooling is needed all day. In dry areas, low humidity, so called
"swamp coolers" or "evaporative coolers are adequate, but do little
good except provide moving air when humidity rises. I had a central
"swamp cooler" in Los Angeles, Ca. that worked pretty well. Just
moving air helps.

The whole house fan I mentioned in windancir's post, that I used in
San Jose, Calif. kept the air moving and was quite helpful. However,
I added window A/C units in my bedroom and living room later. I
didn't like the noise of the A/C units, but I felt much more
comfortable. Not to mention, the A/C noise "masked" the neighborhood
noises. Some families "beat the heat" by living out doors. I did not
like their living noises intruding on my low noise life. I did have
a 50 gal tank for a couple of years in San Jose, but, sorry to say, I
didn't pay much attention to its temperature. I guess keeping me
comfortable kept it livable for I had no problems.

One problem with all efforts to keep aquarium tempertures stable is
the dependence on stable electricity. Here the "solid walls" can help
to ride out an electrical outage for an hour or so, but no good for
long outages and it takes longer to pull the temperature back down
when the electricity comes back on.

Therer are risks to all of our efforts. Some methods are more
esthetic (look better). Thus the A/C leaves the tanks looking as they
always do, where as taking off the light hood and mounting a fan to
cool the tank by evaporation takes away the main point of having fish.
But, A/C is noisy and expensive.

Good luck to all of us! g

dick


House is brick, cavity wall insulation and then breeze blocks which are then
plastered. Very few of the interior walls are plaster board as we discovered
when we were chanelling out for cables and again when we had some
re-modelling work done - they are breeze block as well which is then
plastered. So it holds in the heat - great in winter but not the best in
summer.

Were you thinking of cutting the hole for the aircon yourselves? I have
a twin split unit installed upstairs for my bedroom and office. I had
the units installed by a "professional", and he used a seriously big
drill bit to cut out the holes for the tubes.

I have really appreciated the ideas.....BTW I don't think aircon would be a
patch on all the computers we have running in here - lol

Yes, the computers in my office really add to the heat in summer. It
used to be a nightmare trying to work in a sauna. But now I get a blast
from an oven when exiting the office.

Unfortunately, all my aquariums are on the ground floor. But I'm sure I
wouldn't go to the expense solely for the aquariums if I could help it.
But then again, I'd probably consider one of those thermoelectric
aquarium chillers if it got bad.

BTW, have you seen the explosion in aircon units in DIY stores? I
thought I was unique.

Nikki

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:07:21 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"Dick" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:36:27 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"winddancir" wrote in
message
...

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


--
winddancir

"It's only June" is what is worrying me. The house does get hot even when
temps haven't got to extremes but we haven't started to see a summer yet.
I
thought it would be best to do this posting so that I can plan for any
further problems when things really heat up. I've had some really great
hints and advice - thanks everyone :-)

We generally open everything up in the summer to bring down the temps to
make it bearable for us humans. This is my first year of having to do it
for
fish as well. Air con would be wonderful but that would be a major
undertaking - the house and walls are extremely solid....I'm looking into
fans and at least one air con unit for the conservatory (where remarkably
I
have the coolest tank).

Apart from the sad losses we had in my son's tank with the stuck on
heater
all the other fish seem to be coping so far.....but I want to be prepared
for if it really warms up (doesn't happen often over here hence our lack
of
methods of coping with it)

Thanks again
Gill


"walls are extremely solid"? My house is build of adobe with concrete
covering the adobe bricks. Even the inner walls are adobe and
concrete. Are you talking that kind of "solid"?

Solid is good to slow temperature changes and solid is bad because it
slows temperature changes. That resistance to change is fine to
moderate, that is slow down, temperature changes, but for me it is a
disadvantage. Summer heat varies form an average low of 58F to an
average high of 91F. That high can go over 100 some days. So,
cooling is needed all day. In dry areas, low humidity, so called
"swamp coolers" or "evaporative coolers are adequate, but do little
good except provide moving air when humidity rises. I had a central
"swamp cooler" in Los Angeles, Ca. that worked pretty well. Just
moving air helps.

The whole house fan I mentioned in windancir's post, that I used in
San Jose, Calif. kept the air moving and was quite helpful. However,
I added window A/C units in my bedroom and living room later. I
didn't like the noise of the A/C units, but I felt much more
comfortable. Not to mention, the A/C noise "masked" the neighborhood
noises. Some families "beat the heat" by living out doors. I did not
like their living noises intruding on my low noise life. I did have
a 50 gal tank for a couple of years in San Jose, but, sorry to say, I
didn't pay much attention to its temperature. I guess keeping me
comfortable kept it livable for I had no problems.

One problem with all efforts to keep aquarium tempertures stable is
the dependence on stable electricity. Here the "solid walls" can help
to ride out an electrical outage for an hour or so, but no good for
long outages and it takes longer to pull the temperature back down
when the electricity comes back on.

Therer are risks to all of our efforts. Some methods are more
esthetic (look better). Thus the A/C leaves the tanks looking as they
always do, where as taking off the light hood and mounting a fan to
cool the tank by evaporation takes away the main point of having fish.
But, A/C is noisy and expensive.

Good luck to all of us! g

dick

House is brick, cavity wall insulation and then breeze blocks which are then
plastered. Very few of the interior walls are plaster board as we discovered
when we were chanelling out for cables and again when we had some
re-modelling work done - they are breeze block as well which is then
plastered. So it holds in the heat - great in winter but not the best in
summer.

I have really appreciated the ideas.....BTW I don't think aircon would be a
patch on all the computers we have running in here - lol

Thanks again
Gill


Sounds like your house was built by the third little piggy! g

I am not familiar with how you are using the word "patch," but my best
guess is you have a commercial operation with lots of "servers." If
so I am really surprised the building has no A/C. Computer generate
lots of heat. I have 2 computers I run all day, those plus the five
tanks of fish and 2 dogs and my small house stay fairly warm on winter
days with little need for heat. However, computers don't consume much
energy compared to the A/C for a whole house. Most are run on 220
volts to cut the amperage down.

I sure understand the difficulties of running cables. My walls are
over a foot thick and no plaster board. My cables are run on the
outside then holes drilled where the cable was needed on the inside.
Inner walls were channeled during the remodeling for 120 AC, rear
speaker wires, thermostat controls for heater and A/C, cable, and
other assorted wires. Gives "set in stone" a fresh meaning doesn't
it?

dick

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:19:40 +0100, "2pods" wrote:


"Dick" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:31:12 +0100, winddancir

I lived in California most of my life. In my last house I bought and
installed a "whole house fan." I mounted it in the kitchen ceiling.
It was about 3 feet in diameter. I joked the house would levitate
while the fan was on. Of course windows must be open, the fan drew
fresh air from the attic and exhausted through the open windows.

dick

Just like a big computer case :-)

Peter

Yeah! And I was the processor. g

"Dick" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:07:21 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"Dick" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:36:27 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:


"winddancir" wrote in
message
...

It's only June! Just wait until the dog days of summer. Us
Californians
in the USA have learned that air conditioning is good. Floating ice
and
fans work as well. Also, if your house/apartment/whatever is
insulated
for the cold, it can help in a different way. Your over night lows
are
okay, right? Open the entire place at night, putting fans at windows
or
open doorways to circulate the air and cool down the house. The next
morning, close it up before it gets warm. If you cut down on opening
the doors and have the curtains closed, your place can stay cooler
without air conditioning. I have lived in a house without a/c for
over
10 years. As long as your overnight temps go at or below 70, the
house
stays cooler. One story, 3 bedroom, 2 bath. We also have a fan in
the
hall that is in the attic crawlspace door, and it is put in so that
it
will pull the hot air up out of the house.


--
winddancir

"It's only June" is what is worrying me. The house does get hot even
when
temps haven't got to extremes but we haven't started to see a summer
yet.
I
thought it would be best to do this posting so that I can plan for any
further problems when things really heat up. I've had some really
great
hints and advice - thanks everyone :-)

We generally open everything up in the summer to bring down the temps
to
make it bearable for us humans. This is my first year of having to do
it
for
fish as well. Air con would be wonderful but that would be a major
undertaking - the house and walls are extremely solid....I'm looking
into
fans and at least one air con unit for the conservatory (where
remarkably
I
have the coolest tank).

Apart from the sad losses we had in my son's tank with the stuck on
heater
all the other fish seem to be coping so far.....but I want to be
prepared
for if it really warms up (doesn't happen often over here hence our
lack
of
methods of coping with it)

Thanks again
Gill


"walls are extremely solid"? My house is build of adobe with concrete
covering the adobe bricks. Even the inner walls are adobe and
concrete. Are you talking that kind of "solid"?

Solid is good to slow temperature changes and solid is bad because it
slows temperature changes. That resistance to change is fine to
moderate, that is slow down, temperature changes, but for me it is a
disadvantage. Summer heat varies form an average low of 58F to an
average high of 91F. That high can go over 100 some days. So,
cooling is needed all day. In dry areas, low humidity, so called
"swamp coolers" or "evaporative coolers are adequate, but do little
good except provide moving air when humidity rises. I had a central
"swamp cooler" in Los Angeles, Ca. that worked pretty well. Just
moving air helps.

The whole house fan I mentioned in windancir's post, that I used in
San Jose, Calif. kept the air moving and was quite helpful. However,
I added window A/C units in my bedroom and living room later. I
didn't like the noise of the A/C units, but I felt much more
comfortable. Not to mention, the A/C noise "masked" the neighborhood
noises. Some families "beat the heat" by living out doors. I did not
like their living noises intruding on my low noise life. I did have
a 50 gal tank for a couple of years in San Jose, but, sorry to say, I
didn't pay much attention to its temperature. I guess keeping me
comfortable kept it livable for I had no problems.

One problem with all efforts to keep aquarium tempertures stable is
the dependence on stable electricity. Here the "solid walls" can help
to ride out an electrical outage for an hour or so, but no good for
long outages and it takes longer to pull the temperature back down
when the electricity comes back on.

Therer are risks to all of our efforts. Some methods are more
esthetic (look better). Thus the A/C leaves the tanks looking as they
always do, where as taking off the light hood and mounting a fan to
cool the tank by evaporation takes away the main point of having fish.
But, A/C is noisy and expensive.

Good luck to all of us! g

dick

House is brick, cavity wall insulation and then breeze blocks which are
then
plastered. Very few of the interior walls are plaster board as we
discovered
when we were chanelling out for cables and again when we had some
re-modelling work done - they are breeze block as well which is then
plastered. So it holds in the heat - great in winter but not the best in
summer.

I have really appreciated the ideas.....BTW I don't think aircon would be
a
patch on all the computers we have running in here - lol

Thanks again
Gill


Sounds like your house was built by the third little piggy! g

I am not familiar with how you are using the word "patch," but my best
guess is you have a commercial operation with lots of "servers." If
so I am really surprised the building has no A/C. Computer generate
lots of heat. I have 2 computers I run all day, those plus the five
tanks of fish and 2 dogs and my small house stay fairly warm on winter
days with little need for heat. However, computers don't consume much
energy compared to the A/C for a whole house. Most are run on 220
volts to cut the amperage down.

I sure understand the difficulties of running cables. My walls are
over a foot thick and no plaster board. My cables are run on the
outside then holes drilled where the cable was needed on the inside.
Inner walls were channeled during the remodeling for 120 AC, rear
speaker wires, thermostat controls for heater and A/C, cable, and
other assorted wires. Gives "set in stone" a fresh meaning doesn't
it?

dick

Another example of being "separated by a common language" - G....."not a
patch" means "would not compete" or "gets nowhere near" - in this case the
computer fans are louder than anything else - including my air bricks!!!
Actually at the moment we only have two computers running
downstairs....Believe me if you want to hear real noise (and I don't know
that you haven't) a Server Room is something else entirely - and I have been
in a number of these in my time working in the "industry" (but not for much
longer - he, he and very big g) - most Server Rooms also have the aircon
noise as well.....actually thinking about it maybe a Server Room is the best
place for a tank - lol

Gill