How Heavy is too Heavy?

Weight sort of makes me nervous, we have a 20g tank which I estimate weighs
about 250lbs or so. Our house is about 17 years old, atleast the end where
the tank is. It's in our bedroom so the weight of the tank and everything
else in the house kind of freaks me out. I know, I'm probably being foolish
but it still kind of scares me.

"Doug W" BUNGBOY17withoutanyspamandadsandothercrap@hotmail .com wrote in
message ...
Also, remember if you pay a "structural engineer" to assess your situation,
they will most likely err on the side of caution to avoid a lawsuit,
probably err'ing on an extra few orders or magnitude these days due to the
litiguous society that we have become.

-Doug


"Sunshyn" wrote in message
. net...
Obviously the answer to this question will vary depending on the house
but..... at what point do you all think that a tank is heavy enough to
require added support to the floor (ie: bracing the floor from the
basement?)






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I assume that you're the self appointed news-group cop?

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I had to laugh about your ideas concerning the weight of "said fish tank"
and what structural
modifications will be needed. I have just one small question that you should
consider,before
rewriting the Laws of Architectural design. How heavies the bath Tub, plus
your weight.
Also ,,Do you own a Water bed..

bassett

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"~Vicki ~" wrote in message
...
I didn't think it was a silly question. In fact it is a very good
question and I am looking forward to seeing some answers.

Vicki

currently looking at homes. This will help me decide on either a
slab
built home or one with a crawl space.


But you can't get 'good' answers. If you go for a slab house will the
usual
4" of concrete support the weight? Or do you need 6" where the
aquarium
goes?

Crawl space? 16" centers or 18" centers. What kind of wood for the
aquarium
area? Parallel or cross joist?

It's still a silly question. You need a strualal engineer to give an
answer.

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I had to laugh about your ideas concerning the weight of "said fish
tank" and what structural
modifications will be needed. I have just one small question that you
should consider,before
rewriting the Laws of Architectural design. =A0 How heavies the bath
Tub, plus
your weight.
Also ,,Do you own a Water bed..
bassett




Oh this is rich!!! We had a king sized water bed till a few years ago.
LOL never even worried about it in the upstairs bedroom of our old 1929
town house. Gave it to nephew a few years ago and he uses it in his
moble home.

Thanks,
Vicki

~Vicki ~ wrote:

Oh this is rich!!! We had a king sized water bed till a few years
ago. LOL never even worried about it in the upstairs bedroom of our
old 1929
town house. Gave it to nephew a few years ago and he uses it in his
moble home.


We had just bought a new house with a loft in it. I was worried about
putting a water bed in the loft because it wasn't "a real bedroom."

I asked the builder if it would be OK.

His reply...

"I *think* so. Tell ya what. Put the bed up there, fill it slowly and
listen for creaking noises..."

-Donald
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think straight." -To Inherit the Wind

"bassett" wrote in message
...
I had to laugh about your ideas concerning the weight of "said fish
tank"
and what structural
modifications will be needed. I have just one small question that you
should
consider,before
rewriting the Laws of Architectural design. How heavies the bath Tub,
plus
your weight.
Also ,,Do you own a Water bed..

bassett


it's obvious that you've never been involved with building a house before,
because if you had, you would know they already have guidelines for
bathrooms, and laundry rooms, that detail where and how a tub/shower/Jacuzzi
can/should be laid out... They are almost always in either high integrity
areas, corners, load bearing walls, etc... for the specific reason, they'll
be heavier.... If you are building a house, and tell the architect that you
are wanting a 250g tank, he'll ask where do you want it... You say, in the
middle of that room... He'll laugh, and reinforce the floor... If you said
2nd floor, in the middle of the room.... he'll put alot of enforcement below
that floor and the floor below....

Pierre-Normand Houle wrote:

"Donald Kerns" wrote:

We had just bought a new house with a loft in it. I was worried about
putting a water bed in the loft because it wasn't "a real bedroom."

I asked the builder if it would be OK.

His reply...

"I think so. Tell ya what. Put the bed up there, fill it slowly and
listen for creaking noises..."

Good idea. You might even want to actually lie down in the bed while
it is being filled so you can hear these creaking noises even better.

Well... one of the advantages to water beds is they don't make the
"creaking sounds" ;-)

-D
--
"When you've lost your ability to laugh, you've lost your ability to
think straight." -To Inherit the Wind

bassett wrote:

I had to laugh about your ideas concerning the weight of "said fish tank"
and what structural
modifications will be needed. I have just one small question that you should
consider,before
rewriting the Laws of Architectural design. How heavies the bath Tub, plus
your weight.
Also ,,Do you own a Water bed..

I know of several houses that had significant problems because the floor
under the refrigerator was not properly reinforced. And a waterbed
spreads its weight out over a larger area and more joists than most
tanks.
--
Jim Esler

"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...

"bassett" wrote in message
...
I had to laugh about your ideas concerning the weight of "said fish
tank"
and what structural
modifications will be needed. I have just one small question that you
should
consider,before
rewriting the Laws of Architectural design. How heavies the bath Tub,
plus
your weight.
Also ,,Do you own a Water bed..

bassett


it's obvious that you've never been involved with building a house before,
because if you had, you would know they already have guidelines for
bathrooms, and laundry rooms, that detail where and how a
tub/shower/Jacuzzi
can/should be laid out... They are almost always in either high integrity
areas, corners, load bearing walls, etc... for the specific reason,
they'll
be heavier.... If you are building a house, and tell the architect that
you
are wanting a 250g tank, he'll ask where do you want it... You say, in the
middle of that room... He'll laugh, and reinforce the floor... If you said
2nd floor, in the middle of the room.... he'll put alot of enforcement
below
that floor and the floor below....

No kidding! A full 250 would weigh over 2200 lbs.

Marcus

Actually I have built houses and renovated a few as well, Not that I am a
builder,
But weight distribution is the same the world over.. Tell me as you know so
much on the subject, perhaps you can list the number of suspended floors
that have failed, due to an over excess in weight.. You know the thing,
Bath tubs fitted with large overweight ladies,
or what about Piano's. I have a friend that collects up-right piano's , He
has about five of the things, in his lounge Room,,[please don't ask why'
we have done that ] House up on brick piers, with the normal timber joist
arrangement..
Another friend is also into fish, He has some 50 odd tanks in his tank room,
Timber house,
raised on Piers, nothing special.
My own little set-up, consists of a 3 bedroom place, up on brick piers
this is getting repetitive ] again all standard, two double water beds, a
double spy bath, Four foot fish tank in the Lounge room, in an Upright
Piano stand.. The sun room is 35 square metres
has a full size antique Snooker table , and a couple of six foot tanks..
and to date
nothing creaks or drops through the floor.. So really I think your talking a
load of Crap..

Love bassett..



RedForeman ©® wrote in message

it's obvious that you've never been involved with building a house
before,
because if you had, you would know they already have guidelines for
bathrooms, and laundry rooms, that detail where and how a
tub/shower/Jacuzzi
can/should be laid out... They are almost always in either high integrity
areas, corners, load bearing walls, etc... for the specific reason,
they'll
be heavier.... If you are building a house, and tell the architect that
you
are wanting a 250g tank, he'll ask where do you want it... You say, in the
middle of that room... He'll laugh, and reinforce the floor... If you said
2nd floor, in the middle of the room.... he'll put alot of enforcement
below
that floor and the floor below....


"bassett" wrote in message
I had to laugh about your ideas concerning the weight of "said fish
tank"
and what structural
modifications will be needed. I have just one small question that you
should
consider,before
rewriting the Laws of Architectural design. How heavies the bath Tub,
plus
your weight.
Also ,,Do you own a Water bed..

bassett