Aquarists vs Marine Biologists

I will have to agree, so many people can't be wrong. It makes more sense
that I accept my arrogance and understand that the problem is me...

jrs
"Don Geddis" wrote in message
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"J R-S" wrote on Sun, 19 Mar 2006:
All I've gotten in this group is insult after insult just because I dare
to
break from the main stream.

You're confused about the reason.

People here actually like "breaking from the mainstream". For example, it
was interesting when Ron Shimek (and others) started suggesting the
benefits
of keeping a Deep Sand Bed in a reef aquarium. That's a relatively new
suggestion in the hobby. Ron provided lots of data, analysis,
suggestions,
keep tons of successful tanks himself, wrote (and published) scientific
articles in marine biology journals, etc. All good stuff. No negative
reaction from "the establishment".

On the other hand, you've received "insult after insult" because you're
an asshole, not because you "dare" to break from the mainstream.

Lots of people have explained to you why, starting from the insulting tone
of your own messages, to your arguments from authority ("I'm a marine
biologist"), to your premature claims of success ("this is a better idea
...
or will be in a few months when everything settles down"), to your claims
of
secret knowledge that somehow we're all too silly to adopt, yet you won't
actually reveal even the slightest detail.

This is why you're being insulted. Because you're an idiot.

However, plenty of nice, intelligent people have suggested new
methodologies
for reef aquariums, and been welcomed with open arms. The difference in
your case is ... you.

-- Don
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Ok.. Forgive and forget sounds like a great thing you know and that is
well to everyone without exception.


However this discussion on Aquarists and Marine Biologists sounds
interesting to me if people can stop freaking argueing and dredging up
old stones from other threads .. Seriously I am about to embark on a
Biology degree and I am very very seriously thinking about going
towards Marine biology. I have a number of hurdles one being I can not
communcate well take a look at my grammer and spelling. Another
hurdle would be my physical problem with my right ankle not working
very well. I would be very interested in whatever information people
are willing to share on either side of these Aquarist and marine
biology seriously.

Well, let me give you my view...
As for deciding for a biology career, Marine Biology is not the most
profitable one. There are little positions and a lot of competition.
Nevertheless is more profitable than Oceanography, you see, if you want to
be in a ship 3/4 of the year, you want to be an oceanographer. A marine
biologists is more of a lab freak. You will be learning how to deal with
ALL the newest equipment and software there is.
There is when a marine biologist looks more like an aquarist. We spend a
lot of time in the lab testing, testing and testing some more. Then we read
and test some more.
An aquarist is just a hobbyist that chose aquariums as it target hobby.
I mixed both looking for a cheaper way to built a sal****er aquarium with my
coastal experience and some experience working for the Department of Health;
Environmental Protection.
It is interesting how easy is to apply your lab knowledge to a custom
aquarium and how much money you save.
About your ankle, well, you are going to be in the lab not scuba diving, for
the latter, become an oceanographer.
In my case, I have two publications, one with the Journal of Marine Biology
of the University of Miami and the other as a comulative environmental
impact statement in the XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto
Rico. Currently I am producing and editing a series of fieldguides of the
wildlife of the Florida Keys, an interactive software to help in the
delineation of wetlands in Central Florida and developing a maintenance-less
filtration system for small sal****er aquariums. I am also a step away from
entering a university in search of a PhD.
What does it all have to do with your knee? an accident destroyed half of
my left knee's ligaments, pressure-fracture my lumbar 1 & 3 and left me
partially incapacitaded, yet look at all I've accomplished.
Don't let any physical impediment be an obstacle in your life!
jrs
"AverageSchmuck" wrote in message
...
Ok.. Forgive and forget sounds like a great thing you know and that is
well to everyone without exception.


However this discussion on Aquarists and Marine Biologists sounds
interesting to me if people can stop freaking argueing and dredging up
old stones from other threads .. Seriously I am about to embark on a
Biology degree and I am very very seriously thinking about going
towards Marine biology. I have a number of hurdles one being I can not
communcate well take a look at my grammer and spelling. Another
hurdle would be my physical problem with my right ankle not working
very well. I would be very interested in whatever information people
are willing to share on either side of these Aquarist and marine
biology seriously.

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
In my case, I have two publications,
one with the Journal of Marine Biology of the University of Miami
and the other as a comulative environmental impact statement in
the XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto Rico.

Is there any way to see this copy of the "Journal of Marine Biology"?
I have visited the library of University of Miami online and
they do not list this journal title at all. Is the journal name
any different? Or maybe I did not look hard enough... ?

I was also searching journals catalog by your first & last name and
also could not find it. I am so much interested in reading any of
your marine biologists texts but they are so, so hard to find!

"Nevertheless is more profitable than Oceanography, you see, if you want to
be in a ship 3/4 of the year, you want to be an oceanographer. A marine
biologists is more of a lab freak."

You are clueless again lol Troll


" XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto
" Rico.

Sure, show me a link to that or any ref to that

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"J R-S" wrote in message
...
: Well, let me give you my view...
: As for deciding for a biology career, Marine Biology is not the most
: profitable one. There are little positions and a lot of competition.
: Nevertheless is more profitable than Oceanography, you see, if you want to
: be in a ship 3/4 of the year, you want to be an oceanographer. A marine
: biologists is more of a lab freak. You will be learning how to deal with
: ALL the newest equipment and software there is.
: There is when a marine biologist looks more like an aquarist. We spend a
: lot of time in the lab testing, testing and testing some more. Then we read
: and test some more.
: An aquarist is just a hobbyist that chose aquariums as it target hobby.
: I mixed both looking for a cheaper way to built a sal****er aquarium with my
: coastal experience and some experience working for the Department of Health;
: Environmental Protection.
: It is interesting how easy is to apply your lab knowledge to a custom
: aquarium and how much money you save.
: About your ankle, well, you are going to be in the lab not scuba diving, for
: the latter, become an oceanographer.
: In my case, I have two publications, one with the Journal of Marine Biology
: of the University of Miami and the other as a comulative environmental
: impact statement in the XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto
: Rico. Currently I am producing and editing a series of fieldguides of the
: wildlife of the Florida Keys, an interactive software to help in the
: delineation of wetlands in Central Florida and developing a maintenance-less
: filtration system for small sal****er aquariums. I am also a step away from
: entering a university in search of a PhD.
: What does it all have to do with your knee? an accident destroyed half of
: my left knee's ligaments, pressure-fracture my lumbar 1 & 3 and left me
: partially incapacitaded, yet look at all I've accomplished.
: Don't let any physical impediment be an obstacle in your life!
: jrs
: "AverageSchmuck" wrote in message
: ...
: Ok.. Forgive and forget sounds like a great thing you know and that is
: well to everyone without exception.
:
:
: However this discussion on Aquarists and Marine Biologists sounds
: interesting to me if people can stop freaking argueing and dredging up
: old stones from other threads .. Seriously I am about to embark on a
: Biology degree and I am very very seriously thinking about going
: towards Marine biology. I have a number of hurdles one being I can not
: communcate well take a look at my grammer and spelling. Another
: hurdle would be my physical problem with my right ankle not working
: very well. I would be very interested in whatever information people
: are willing to share on either side of these Aquarist and marine
: biology seriously.
:
:
:

PZM

There is no such think as "Journal of Marine Biology
of the University of Miami"

But there is the Journal of Marine Biology
http://www.springerlink.com/(qtzhqd55htlj0n450nwhek45)/app/home/journal.asp?referrer=parent&backto=linkingpublicat ionresults,1:106515,1


He is just a TROLL


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"Boomer" wrote in message ...
There is no such think as "Journal of Marine Biology
of the University of Miami"

But there is the Journal of Marine Biology
http://www.springerlink.com/(qtzhqd55htlj0n450nwhek45)/app/home/journal.asp?referrer=parent&backto=linkingpublicat ionresults,1:106515,1

Oh come on, give him a chance...
Maybe he has just misspelled the name of the journal ? ;-)

Anyway - two publications in a whole scientific career - that is really impressive! ;-)

Any other marine biologist, for example, professor Benayahu, might be very jealous
of these great Jaime's achievements. Jaime is like a Science King compared to this guy:
http://www.tau.ac.il/lifesci/departm.../benayahu.html
It will be really hard to find another guy with a great career like Jaime... we need to
consider ourselves very lucky his Highness lowered to our level and is speaking to us... ;-)

Wow Pz I doubt anyone can compete with that guy .. That has to be the
culmination of 30 or more years of serious work.

But as far as Marine Biology I was reading a guide other day published
from NOAA and National Sea Grant College Program named
MarineScienceCareers.pdf Sorry I would offer up a link but to be
honest cant remeber it of top of head. Well anyhow it is a collection
mostly of interviews from various people within that spectrum of
careers. I saw everything from Marine Vets, to researchers on reefs
and inside labs and I think even some that worked in Medical areas of
research. Seems to me the spectrum of careers are very wide from one
degree path or am I very confused here? Their was also Aquarists in
their also with Marine Biology degrees and what they described they
were doing seemed to be above and beyond the small tank I have in my
house that is for sure. When I was in Alaska a year ago I got to visit
the Marine Life Rescue Center up their .. Now that place was just
awesome to me and seemed to me their was a lot of Aquarists their but
hard for me to beleive that all of those people housing out the tanks
all probably were working on PhDs.. and here I am a middle aged
aspiring poop scrub I suppose .. LOL

"J R-S" wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2006:
I am also a step away from entering a university in search of a PhD.

So, you're not even a graduate student yet?

And here I had the impression that you were a professor with a long and
distinguished career. (I graduated with my own PhD a decade ago.) Instead,
you're just a college grad.

OK, no shame in that. Thanks for clearing it up, though.

-- Don
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The chicken is involved; the pig is committed.

"Don Geddis" wrote in message ...
"J R-S" wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2006:
I am also a step away from entering a university in search of a PhD.

So, you're not even a graduate student yet?

And here I had the impression that you were a professor with a long and
distinguished career. (I graduated with my own PhD a decade ago.) Instead,
you're just a college grad.

OK, no shame in that. Thanks for clearing it up, though.

Pretty disappointing, isn't it ? ;-)