Fish problems. Dropsy?

Well, I'm pretty pleased with this Interpet stuff. Today the scales are
down (not perfect, you can still see the red underneath) and the anal port
is still red. He's still acting completely freaked - but he seems a bit
better. For 8 hours worth of treatment, I think he's going to be ok. We'll
see.

As for antibiotics, it does look like it'll have to be online in future -
the only problem is customs and whether I can get whoever is sending the
package to classify it as a gift with little value and nothing to do with
chemicals. Airplanes don't take kindly to carrying those kind of substances
as far as I know.

I'm going to go buy the peroxide now. Then I'm going to leave it till this
evening to see whether he's better. If he is, then I'll probably spare him
the stress.

Thank you for your Time Ingrid - but without antibiotics I'm pretty stuffed
with your methods at the moment. I'll pray this works and start looking
towards the black fish market later on!

BTW - puregold is a great resource, but a little confusing. Are you
thinking of upgrading the site?

wrote in message
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can you get potassium permanganate? KMNO4? it is used in water
softening.
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/p...se/disease.htm
in the treatment says how to make up stock solution. this stuff really
kills
columnaris on the outside. so you cannot get antibiotics for inside the
tank? not
even sulfa type antibiotics? for food, just soak the dry food in the
antibiotic in a
little water. you might consider ordering it online for future fish.
Ingrid

Interpet's anti fungus and finrot treats columnaris.
Mel


"BErney1014" wrote in message
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Pure B.S., live food is the best.

Maybe best to ask the question to Ingrid why live foods are not best
before shooting her down first!

Ingrid?

Ozz


You can ask her why. I don't care who you believe, but if you knew more
about
the subject you wouldn't believe her. Look into it, it's nothing new.

Interpet's anti fungus and finrot treats columnaris.

Yes, if it looks like fungus, it's called fungus, even though it's a bacteria.
There are quite a few brands in UK to treat with. If I recall the packaging
laws don't require ingredient listings in the UK. Mike Edwards would be a guy
to contact in the UK, he has a web site too.

yeah, I am ... over Xmas vacation. maybe send me an email stating what is confusing.

dr-solo@(splice this part out)wi.rr.com

"George Thompson" wrote:
BTW - puregold is a great resource, but a little confusing. Are you
thinking of upgrading the site?


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In message ,
writes
can you get potassium permanganate?
Potassium permanganate used to be available from Boots - had to soak my
kids in it when they had chicken pox: amazing effect - bright purple
spots...
Klara
(just visiting)
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The anal port on my chocolate oranda has enlarged considerably and is very
red.

I thought it was going down this morning, but it seems to be getting worse.
Am I going to damage him now with a potassium dip?

He's freaking out a lot when I approach the tank. He just goes absolutely
mental and would probably throw himself out of the tank if he wasn't so
chubby.

Local vets told me no way on the antibiotics - they'd never even heard of a
goldfish swallowing stones, so I'm going to look around if I get time and
see if any of the other local vets will help.

wrote in message
...
can you get potassium permanganate? KMNO4? it is used in water
softening.
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/p...se/disease.htm
in the treatment says how to make up stock solution. this stuff really
kills
columnaris on the outside. so you cannot get antibiotics for inside the
tank? not
even sulfa type antibiotics? for food, just soak the dry food in the
antibiotic in a
little water. you might consider ordering it online for future fish.
Ingrid

this is internal infection, possibly infected eggs. get the heat isnt up to 84o and
if you cannot inject antibiotics I am not sure this fish is going to make it, sorry.
Ingrid


"George Thompson" wrote:
The anal port on my chocolate oranda has enlarged considerably and is very
red.

Local vets told me no way on the antibiotics - they'd never even heard of a
goldfish swallowing stones, so I'm going to look around if I get time and
see if any of the other local vets will help.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

oh dear, and since the infection had gone down, I was sure he was! I shall
ring round all vets tomorrow!

anyone in Norwich UK who knows where there is a fish vet nearby?

wrote in message
...
this is internal infection, possibly infected eggs. get the heat isnt up
to 84o and
if you cannot inject antibiotics I am not sure this fish is going to make
it, sorry.
Ingrid


"George Thompson" wrote:
The anal port on my chocolate oranda has enlarged considerably and is
very
red.

Local vets told me no way on the antibiotics - they'd never even heard of
a
goldfish swallowing stones, so I'm going to look around if I get time and
see if any of the other local vets will help.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

I've found a vet willing, but she needs to know what antibiotic & how much
she should use! She's never injected a fish, so any ideas would help :- )

At least I've found a vet with a little compassion - god only knows what
she'll charge...

wrote in message
...
this is internal infection, possibly infected eggs. get the heat isnt up
to 84o and
if you cannot inject antibiotics I am not sure this fish is going to make
it, sorry.
Ingrid


"George Thompson" wrote:
The anal port on my chocolate oranda has enlarged considerably and is
very
red.

Local vets told me no way on the antibiotics - they'd never even heard of
a
goldfish swallowing stones, so I'm going to look around if I get time and
see if any of the other local vets will help.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:24:52 GMT, wrote:

this is internal infection, possibly infected eggs. get the heat isnt up to 84o and
if you cannot inject antibiotics I am not sure this fish is going to make it, sorry.
Ingrid


"George Thompson" wrote:
The anal port on my chocolate oranda has enlarged considerably and is very
red.

Local vets told me no way on the antibiotics - they'd never even heard of a
goldfish swallowing stones, so I'm going to look around if I get time and
see if any of the other local vets will help.

This is what happened with Flipper this spring. Put the fish in a
hospital tank. I had a 10G for that purpose. Get some Tri-Sulfa if
you can find it. Aquarium Pharmaceuticals makes it as well as several
other companies. Run the heat up, I put mine up around 80 - 84
degrees and added epsom salt to the water. It took about 3 days
for it to clear up.

Flipper was a bright red from head to tail, looked like blood under
the skin and around the anal port. I can't remember how much
epsom salt to use. One of the galz from here gave me the advice.
Flipper was not eating at all for several days, so it was impossible
to feed antibiotic food.

I did a google search and found the thread that concerned this and
here is nona's info.

It's 1 tsp epsom salt per gallon of water for 1 to 3 days. When I
read this I thought it was excessive, but it really did help my fish.

Nona (another foodie and hapa)

Azul