Frogs

Last Friday I took off the lily pond winter cover, by Saturday I had one
croaker. 5 nights later I had an orchestra. I went out Sunday and delivered
my, "If the frogs annoy you, please e-mail me before contacting the city
attorney" note to all the surrounding neighbors. Currently the frogs
haven't hit full volume, and it's cool enough still that most keep their
windows shut in the evenings.

I'm hoping that letting people know that the volume control is as close as
their own computer will make them more tolerant. ~ jan


~ jan/WA
Zone 7a

~ janj wrote:
Last Friday I took off the lily pond winter cover, by Saturday I had one
croaker. 5 nights later I had an orchestra. I went out Sunday and delivered
my, "If the frogs annoy you, please e-mail me before contacting the city
attorney" note to all the surrounding neighbors. Currently the frogs
haven't hit full volume, and it's cool enough still that most keep their
windows shut in the evenings.

I'm hoping that letting people know that the volume control is as close as
their own computer will make them more tolerant. ~ jan


~ jan/WA
Zone 7a

Hi Jan,

I'm just a little curious as to how you can be held responsible for the
noise made by a wild creature - in this case the frogs?

Also a bit curious as to how you turn the volume down....

Gill

Me too
Croaking frogs would be music to my ears up here!
I'm just hoping our green frog "Ralphie" has survived the winter in our
pond.
Consider yourself lucky )
Pretty sad state if people are annoyed by such a minor "natural" music!
Wow.
Angie

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
~ janj wrote:
Last Friday I took off the lily pond winter cover, by Saturday I had one
croaker. 5 nights later I had an orchestra. I went out Sunday and
delivered
my, "If the frogs annoy you, please e-mail me before contacting the city
attorney" note to all the surrounding neighbors. Currently the frogs
haven't hit full volume, and it's cool enough still that most keep their
windows shut in the evenings. I'm hoping that letting people know that
the volume control is as close as
their own computer will make them more tolerant. ~ jan


~ jan/WA Zone 7a

Hi Jan,

I'm just a little curious as to how you can be held responsible for the
noise made by a wild creature - in this case the frogs?

Also a bit curious as to how you turn the volume down....

Gill

AngieNews2 wrote:

Me too
Croaking frogs would be music to my ears up here!
I'm just hoping our green frog "Ralphie" has survived the winter in our
pond.
Consider yourself lucky )
Pretty sad state if people are annoyed by such a minor "natural" music!
Wow.

You have to realize, Jan's not talking about "croaking" frogs. She's got
Pacific Tree Frogs. You have a little grey Tree Frog that is probably
similar, but I only ever saw one, and I certainly never had more than a
couple at a time (outside St. Thomas).

Have you ever heard an American Toad trilling? It goes for maybe 5 seconds.
Now, raise that pitch an octave, and maintain it for 30-60 seconds at a
time. It's loud, and potentially annoying. If you get half a dozen of
them outside your window it could drive you crazy. However, Jan's
neighbors are apparently already crazy :-)
--
derek

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:49:55 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:

You have to realize, Jan's not talking about "croaking" frogs. She's got
Pacific Tree Frogs. You have a little grey Tree Frog that is probably
similar, but I only ever saw one, and I certainly never had more than a
couple at a time (outside St. Thomas).

Have you ever heard an American Toad trilling? It goes for maybe 5 seconds.
Now, raise that pitch an octave, and maintain it for 30-60 seconds at a
time. It's loud, and potentially annoying. If you get half a dozen of
them outside your window it could drive you crazy.

Naaa, by that time you've got white noise, easy to sleep to. What wakes you
up is when they all stop at once, dead silence.

However, Jan's neighbors are apparently already crazy :-)

????? I hope you're mean crazy in that they did not talk to or write me a
note, and not crazy because they live near me? ~ jan
~ jan/WA
Zone 7a

~ janj wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:49:55 -0400, Derek Broughton
wrote:

Have you ever heard an American Toad trilling? It goes for maybe 5
seconds. Now, raise that pitch an octave, and maintain it for 30-60
seconds at a
time. It's loud, and potentially annoying. If you get half a dozen of
them outside your window it could drive you crazy.

Naaa, by that time you've got white noise, easy to sleep to. What wakes
you up is when they all stop at once, dead silence.

"It's quiet out there. Too quiet..." :-)

However, Jan's neighbors are apparently already crazy :-)

????? I hope you're mean crazy in that they did not talk to or write me a
note, and not crazy because they live near me? ~ jan

No, just crazy that they want to object to the sounds of nature. I say, if
you can't stand nature, move to the city.
--
derek

"AngieNews2" wrote in message
.. .
Me too
Croaking frogs would be music to my ears up here!
I'm just hoping our green frog "Ralphie" has survived the winter in our
pond.
Consider yourself lucky )
Pretty sad state if people are annoyed by such a minor "natural" music!
Wow.
===========================
Have you ever heard a pond full of lovelorn frogs? If it's close to
someone's home there is no way they're going to sleep through it. I had to
remove a 1/2 barrel from our side porch because the frogs kept me awake and
I love the sounds of nature.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.*
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Hi Jan,
I'm just a little curious as to how you can be held responsible for the
noise made by a wild creature - in this case the frogs?

This is actually in the city code, having a habitat that harbors nuisance
creatures (or some wording like that). This was probably put in there when
people had junk piles that skunks moved into originally.

Also a bit curious as to how you turn the volume down....
Gill

I go out and catch a few males and the volume goes down. These males are
then given to other ponders. Sometimes they stay with them, and sometimes
they don't. ) My neighbors were given a lesson on native creatures in
the letter last year. That these were NOT pets, but come and go as easily
as the crickets. The City Attorney's office said that was the first letter
they had gotten regarding frogs and they thought it was hilarious. Believe
me, the letter I got from them was nothing to laugh about. I set them the
letter and then stayed in e-mail contact with them. No one contacted me or
them after the letter went out. ~ jan

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"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
I'm just a little curious as to how you can be held responsible for the
noise made by a wild creature - in this case the frogs?

Also a bit curious as to how you turn the volume down....
===========================
They can claim her "unnatural" pond is creating a nuisance. It's little
different than having a neighbor with a barking dog.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.*
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

In article ,
Koi-Lo wrote:

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
.. .
I'm just a little curious as to how you can be held responsible for the
noise made by a wild creature - in this case the frogs?

Also a bit curious as to how you turn the volume down....
===========================
They can claim her "unnatural" pond is creating a nuisance. It's little
different than having a neighbor with a barking dog.

Yeah, nobody records sounds of barking dogs and sells it as new age
relaxing music.

Chirping frogs in the spring, that eat bugs are a nuisence, but cars,
motorbikes and what have you that make noise, consume expensive fossil
fuels we buy for a lot of money from the mideast, that also pollutes
like mad (to the detriment of aforementioned frogs ironically) are ok?

Tell them your plan is to buy a big SUV and to drive it a lot so
the emissions will eventually kill them off. Then alert the green people,
buy a local politoco a TV and let nature and politics take its
course. If I can refresh your memory, you saw an endangered frog
in your pond.

You American city dwellers just slay me with your irony.


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