recommendations for 5 series year / model - in UK

In article . com>,
bfd > wrote:
> You guys are lucky to get BMW diesels. If BMW ever offers it here in
> the US, I wouldn't hestitate to get one, especially if you can get it
> with the sport suspension. After all, once the cars gets kind of old,
> you can convert it to "bio-diesel" and drive around smelling like
> french fries (or are we still calling it "FREEDOM FRIES.")

Not all modern high tech diesels will run on bio diesel without
modification.

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"Floyd Rogers" > wrote in message
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>
> The emissions situation in the US is complicated *currently* by the
> fact that we haven't switched to low-sulfur diesel; that comes in next
> year and will allow PM/soot reduction to EU levels. However, NOx
> requirements that phase in next year are more stringent than EU standards:
> diesel autos have to meet the same NOx levels that gasoline autos meet.
>
> FloydR
>

Minor technical correction. The US has mandated and used low-sulfur diesel
fuel for many years. The new, 2007 requirements are for "ultra-low sulfur"
fuel.

Eisboch

In article . com>,
bfd > wrote:
>You guys are lucky to get BMW diesels. If BMW ever offers it here in
>the US, I wouldn't hestitate to get one, especially if you can get it
>with the sport suspension. After all, once the cars gets kind of old,
>you can convert it to "bio-diesel" and drive around smelling like
>french fries

My neighbors car smells like won tons. I was behind a bus last week
that smelled like curry.

If I'm not mistaken the lincoln diesels had bmw engines.
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In article >,
Floyd Rogers > wrote:
> You guys in EU live in your own world. The fact of the matter is that
> the US has had stricter emissions requirements than EU for around 30
> years, and our emissions laws have basically led the EU by 10 years
> during that period (exclusive of CO2.)

Don't different states have different requirements? And are pollutants
measured as a percentage or absolute?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> Floyd Rogers > wrote:
>> You guys in EU live in your own world. The fact of the matter is that
>> the US has had stricter emissions requirements than EU for around 30
>> years, and our emissions laws have basically led the EU by 10 years
>> during that period (exclusive of CO2.)
>
> Don't different states have different requirements? And are pollutants
> measured as a percentage or absolute?
>

Current federal emission standards apply for every state. California has
sometimes set emission standards that exceed those of the fed standards.
For a few years some vehicles were known as "California" cars that were
specifically built by the manufacturer to be sold there. Often they were
(are) noted for having less engine performance and tend to be less
desirable at resale to out of state buyers.

Eisboch

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> "Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote in message
> ...

>> Floyd Rogers > wrote:
>>> You guys in EU live in your own world. The fact of the matter is that
>>> the US has had stricter emissions requirements than EU for around 30
>>> years, and our emissions laws have basically led the EU by 10 years
>>> during that period (exclusive of CO2.)
>>
>> Don't different states have different requirements? And are pollutants
>> measured as a percentage or absolute?
>>


Pollutants are an absolute measurement AFAIK .... so many parts per million
for each type. At least that's what is printed on the emission test results
after you have your vehicle inspected.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" > wrote in message
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>
>>
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> Floyd Rogers > wrote:
>>>> You guys in EU live in your own world. The fact of the matter is that
>>>> the US has had stricter emissions requirements than EU for around 30
>>>> years, and our emissions laws have basically led the EU by 10 years
>>>> during that period (exclusive of CO2.)
>>>
>>> Don't different states have different requirements? And are pollutants
>>> measured as a percentage or absolute?
>>>
>
>
> Pollutants are an absolute measurement AFAIK .... so many parts per
> million for each type. At least that's what is printed on the emission
> test results after you have your vehicle inspected.
>
> Eisboch


I keep thinking of things. The way it works in the US is that the federal
government establishes the criteria for emission requirements and vehicle
manufacturers must meet them in each model year in order to offer them for
sale as new cars. The fed encourages each state to adopt the current
criteria in their respective emission testing programs. Failure to do so by
any state can cause that state to lose federal funding assistance for road
repair and/or construction. Florida eliminated all vehicle inspections ....
safety and emission.... a few years ago. I don't know what the rational was
to do so.

Eisboch

"Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote
> In article >,
> Floyd Rogers > wrote:
>> You guys in EU live in your own world. The fact of the matter is that
>> the US has had stricter emissions requirements than EU for around 30
>> years, and our emissions laws have basically led the EU by 10 years
>> during that period (exclusive of CO2.)
>
> Don't different states have different requirements? And are pollutants
> measured as a percentage or absolute?

There are currently around 10 states signed up for the California
emissions standards. All CA standards are stricter than the federal
standards, which are at least as strict as EU standards.
The diesel NOx requirement is a federal standard.

FloydR

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article . com>,
> bfd > wrote:
> > You guys are lucky to get BMW diesels. If BMW ever offers it here in
> > the US, I wouldn't hestitate to get one, especially if you can get it
> > with the sport suspension. After all, once the cars gets kind of old,
> > you can convert it to "bio-diesel" and drive around smelling like
> > french fries (or are we still calling it "FREEDOM FRIES.")
>
> Not all modern high tech diesels will run on bio diesel without
> modification.
>
That's true, but conversion kits are available and many more will be
developed as diesels become more readily available. I really like the
thought of bio-diesel and wished BMW had more offerings in the US.

With America being so clean then, what's the problem with the Kyoto
agreement ?

Serious question - I really would like to know......

Nick