Toyota loses its way

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:30:40 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
> wrote:

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>"Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message
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>> Are you kidding??? I've always driven my American cars that way, I
>> LIKE accelerating. I've never had a domestic go bad due to this, only
>> the Toyota. I'm not saying every Toyota will fail, it's just MY
>> experience. If a car can't take full throttle shifts a few times a
>> week it's a piece of crap that's severely under designed.
>
>
>If a car is subjected to full throttle shifts a few times a week, it's being
>severely abused. Thanks for playing. You know I'm right because you have had
>to pay for repairs that resulted from the abuse you put your cars to.
>

You're delusional. ANY car worth it's salt can easily take several
full throttle shifts A DAY, my domestics have NEVER had a problem
doing so. If you don't think so then you have no knowledge of cars
and their capabilities, at least no knowledge of decent cars.


>You're the reason they don't rent cars to people under 25. They know you
>can't drive for ****, and you destroy the equiment.
>
>

You seem to be confusing abuse with hard driving. Not the same.

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:43:49 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
> wrote:

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>"Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:32:42 -0500, Hachiroku ???? >
>> wrote:
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>>>On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:00 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
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>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:55 -0500, Hachiroku ???? >
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:35 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, I did it three times in one day, quite often. Never had a
>>>>>>>problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then again, I made sure the ATF was correct and at the correct level.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are becoming a desperate troll. Get back in touch when you return
>>>>>> to the land of the rational. Bye bye.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you either just don't know how to drive, or were trying to drive
>>>>>a Tercel like a Supra.
>>>>>
>>>>>Either way, you ruined a perfectly good transmission in a perfectly good
>>>>>car all by yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Believe what you want. It's your delusion.
>>>
>>>Not mine at all. You must have done something serious to be able to ruin
>>>this transmission.
>>>
>>>This transmission is rated 131 hp, and is mated to an engine that produces
>>>108. You should congratulate yuourself for being clever enough to ruin an
>>>transmission rated 28 HP more than the engine can produce.
>>>
>>>The spec for 1st gear is 34MPH. You probably managed to exceed that, and
>>>probably the 2nd gear spec, too. Ever hear of an Owner's Manual? It's in
>>>there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting
>> itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like
>> every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only
>> the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically
>> controlled up shifts a week. It appears you really have little
>> understanding of how cars work.
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>
>
>You're the reason why buying a Used Car is a dangerous proposition. If you
>drive all cars to red line before they shift, you're doing serious damage to
>the engine and the transmission.
>
>I had automatic transmissions that made this kind of shift a handful of
>times in all of the years I owned them, and none that ever made them more
>once in the same quarter. There isn't an automatic transmission made that's
>intended to make full throttle shifts at or near red line, a few times a
>week.
>
>It doesn't matter that you claim you do it all of the time, it's no way to
>treat your machine. Ever. Period.
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>
>


Wow, for a while I wasn't sure but now I am,... you are completely
ignorant of cars and how they are designed and how they work. I've
driven EVERY car I've ever owned that way and NONE of them suffered
any damage as a result of these "red line engine and transmission"
shifts, except, of course, the Toyota.

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:35:34 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

>>Even worse. You took a gently driven car and managed to destroy it?
>>
>>And head gaskets are known on this car. Must have been prior to 1994.
>>Easy fix. You can lift the engine out of the engine bay yourself.
>
>
> Ah, the Typical Toyota apologist reply, ignore the lack of quality as if
> the fact that it's actually repairable excuses it.

Toyota was using asbestos head gaskets, and thanks to our government was
forced to abandon the asbestos gaskets for a different material. As a
result, the torque specs for the head bolts was wrong.

Try replacing the HG on a Supra, if you think the job on a Tercel is bad.

Ford, GM and Chrysler NEVER make any mistakes, right?

1995 Chrysler LHS Recall
Item Affected: SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER ARM Date Announced:
8/17/1999

Description of Recall:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE LOWER CONTROL ARM ATTACHING
BRACKETS CAN CRACK DUE TO FATIGUE AND SEPARATE FROM THE ENGINE CRADLE.

Action Needed To Fix It:
DEALERS WILL REINFORCE THE ENGINE CRADLE AT THE POINT WHERE THE LOWER
CONTROL ARM ATTACHES TO IT.


That's not dangerous, at all...