Where can we get statistics of which BIKES pass the CaliforniaDMV riding test?

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:16:38 -0600, Bob Myers wrote:
>> A) Free DMV riding test (from memory): - First of all, it's not even
>> close to realistic.
> Your opinion.
> a test to qualify you for a license doesn't NEED to be "realistic"

Hi Bob,
I think you totally missed the point.

The post you're referring to was contrasting the DMV riding test with the
MSF riding test realism.

Are you actually saying the DMV riding test is more realistic than the MSF
riding test?

I can't believe that since NOBODY else has ever said that (nor will they).

What ARE you trying to say about the difference between the DMV riding
test and the MSF riding test?

And, what has that got to do with the statistics of which bikes pass?

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:42:00 +0000, JoeSchmoe wrote:
> I don't recall ever saying "DMV class" (please show where it was said by
> me); but if I did, it was a typo. There's an MSF class; but not a DMV
> class.

OK. I found where it was. It's clearly a typo. There was a paragraph
about the DMV test and the MSF test. In the paragraph of the MSF test, I
contrasted the MSF test with the DMV test. During one of the contrasts, I
accidentally typed 'class' instead of 'test'.

Wow. Picky group. You'd think you could tell from the content and context
that I clearly meant DMV test ... but hey, I typed it so I'll take the
insults.

To Tim, who wrote:
> There's no "DMV class" in California, either. Â*He either thinks the
> DMV and the MSF are parts of the same entity, he's trying to imply
> that that's the case, or he's simply ignorant.

I apologize. Yes. You are right. There is no "DMV class". It was all a
huge mistake on my part. You are correct. I am sorry.

Now back to those statistics ... don't we have them ... for ANY state????

On Sep 14, 8:42*pm, JoeSchmoe > wrote:
>
> > > There's no "DMV class" in California, either. *
>
> I don't recall ever saying "DMV class" (please show where it was said by
> me);

> > > On Sep 14, 10:50 am, JoeSchmoe > wrote:
> > > > Where it differs from the DMV class (and, mind you, this is
> > > > the entire purpose, whether you understand that or not), is that it
> > > > passes everyone who couldn't pass the DMV test

(And that, BTW, was another lie. The MSF course doesn't ever "pass
everyone". Never has. You really don't seem to understand the
difference between truth [which refers to *real* things] and lies;
which are things that you make up; and which *aren't* real.)

> The only way these two tests could have nothing in common, is if they are
> designed to funnel people from one to the other.

No, that's just another self-serving lie; told by someone who can
apparently rationalize just about anything. So into the Bozo Bin with
you.

You'll like it there.

JoeSchmoe > wrote:

> I'll wager the statistics will conclusively show that larger bore bikes
> VERY OFTEN fail the DMV riding test. And, that almost everyone passes the
> MSF riding test (after paying the MSF over $200 for the privilege) on
> those tiny toy bikes.

<Wearily>

Who cares?

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On Sep 14, 8:34*pm, JoeSchmoe > wrote:
>
>
> And, guess what. My guess is as good as yours (sans data).

Um, no. No it isn't.

Despite your quaint egalitarian notion that your opinion is just as
good as anyone's, in the real world we go to doctors when we're sick,
we go to structural engineers if we need to build a bridge, and we go
ask MSF instructors when we need valid opinions on how and why the MSF
operates.

Q: Have you been an MSF instructor as Tim was for quite some while?
No?

Then he knows what he's talking about, and you don't.

On Sep 14, 11:42*pm, JoeSchmoe > wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:51:18 -0700, Twibil wrote:
> > There's no "DMV class" in California, either. *
>
> I don't recall ever saying "DMV class" (please show where it was said by
> me); but if I did, it was a typo. There's an MSF class; but not a DMV
> class.

No, it is *not* an MSF class.

1. The California Motorcyclist Safety Program is administered by the
California Highway Patrol pursuant to California Vehicle Code section
2931, which established permanent funding for the program in 1994

It is NOT administered by the MSF. The MSF does not administer state
rider training programs, to my knowledge. It provides curricula and
"Rider Coach" certification.

2. The Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) is a national, not-for-
profit organization promoting the safety of motorcyclists with
programs in rider training, operator licensing and public information.
The MSF is sponsored by the U.S. manufacturers and distributors of
BMW, Ducati, Harley-Davidson, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM, Piaggio/Vespa,
Suzuki, Triumph, Victory and Yamaha motorcycles. The Motorcycle
Safety Foundation (MSF) is a developer of rider training curricula and
public information campaigns for motorcyclists.

It is NOT funded by the California Motorcyclist Safety Program

3. Your six-year vendetta has been exposed. Get a life.

On Sep 14, 7:43*pm, Pansy Pete > wrote:
> Um-hum. But isn't it a bit odd how all the people you've ever known
> have turned out to be gay?
>
> I mean, given that the odds are less than one in ten, you'd think that
> at least a *few* of your friends would have been straight; but I
> suppose it's a case of "like attracts like".

At least you *hope* so. Isn't that why you keep on corresponding with
me, due to the catamite factor that runs in your Carr family line?

On Sep 14, 8:58*pm, JoeSchmoe > wrote:

> Wow. Picky group. You'd think you could tell from the content and context
> that I clearly meant DMV test ... but hey, I typed it so I'll take the
> insults.

Picking statements apart to find errors and avoid agreeing with other
users is what rec.motorcycles is all about, it's what these people
*do* for a hobby.

On Sep 15, 6:25*am, "?" > wrote:
>
>
> At least you *hope* so. Isn't that why you keep on corresponding with
> me, due to the catamite factor that runs in your Carr family line?

Idiot, there's no such things as a family lineage that hasn't featured
a percentage of gays; and that includes *your* lineage.

Yes, even your fictional one.

On 9/14/2010 9:44 PM, JoeSchmoe wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:16:38 -0600, Bob Myers wrote:
>>> A) Free DMV riding test (from memory): - First of all, it's not even
>>> close to realistic.
>> Your opinion.
>> a test to qualify you for a license doesn't NEED to be "realistic"
> Hi Bob,
> I think you totally missed the point.
>
> The post you're referring to was contrasting the DMV riding test with the
> MSF riding test realism.
>
> Are you actually saying the DMV riding test is more realistic than the MSF
> riding test?

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? The point was the
"realism," per se, is IRRELEVANT.

Bob M.