Typical response from SUV driver

I was walking my dogs as I usually do by the high school a few blocks
from my home. It is in a fairly affluent neighborhood, and as you can
expect a number (a lot) of people drive large SUV's around here. Of
course they are usually piloted by a soccer mom with a cell-phone
plastered to her face. But anyway, after seeing this for over a year I
finally had enough and said something to one of them. It went
something like this:

Me(As SUV went by with windows down): "Gas Waster"!

Her(after stopping and backing up to confront me): "Excuse me"?

Me: "Gas Waster".

Her: "What do you know about me"?

Me: "I know that you are driving an empty 6000 lb. vehicle around".

Her: "I am trying to find my 6 kids that I am usualy driving around"
(or something similar to that). Then she gives me the finger and calls
me an **shole, and drives off.


Ok, if you take her at her word that the Suburban is always full of
children that she is shuttling around, aren't there safer and more
efficent means? I did a Google search, and the Honda Odyssey gets
around 26 or so mpg on the highway. My sister has one of these and
these are very safe and versatile vehicles.

And besides, how many of these enormous SUV's do you see that are
actually being used to their full potential? That is why I coined the
term a few years back, "Seats Usually Vacant".


CTV

On 20 Jun 2005 12:58:43 -0700, Cartrivision1 , said the following in
rec.autos.driving...


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> And besides, how many of these enormous SUV's do you see that are
> actually being used to their full potential?

None.

> That is why I coined the
> term a few years back, "Seats Usually Vacant".

We have another term we use here to describe women (and men) like the one
you encountered: MFFY - Me First, **** You. Describes 100% the attitude
of someone who drives a Stupid Useless Vehicle with Seats Usually Vacant.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:33:20 -0400, Paul wrote:

> On 20 Jun 2005 12:58:43 -0700, Cartrivision1 , said the following in
> rec.autos.driving...
>
>> And besides, how many of these enormous SUV's do you see that are
>> actually being used to their full potential?
>
> None.

My truck is used to its full potential. I even thought about buying a 2500
instead of a 1500 because trailering is easier with the heavier vehicle.
When I don't need the truck, it stays home.

I always laugh about emptyheaded wannabe-gas-saver punks, who have no idea
what a person is doing with their truck or SUV but have an unmanageable
compulsion to run their mouths.

>> That is why I coined the
>> term a few years back, "Seats Usually Vacant".
>
> We have another term we use here to describe women (and men) like the one
> you encountered: MFFY - Me First, **** You. Describes 100% the attitude of
> someone who drives a Stupid Useless Vehicle with Seats Usually Vacant.

I am not a fan of someone buying an SUV because they think its cool. But
there are a lot of legitimate reasons to own one (as friends, who borrow
my truck because their wannabe gas saver vehicle can't carry furniture,
bicycles or whatever). As long as you know nothing about the person in the
vehicle, don't run your mouth.

Chris

C.H. wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:33:20 -0400, Paul wrote:
>
> > On 20 Jun 2005 12:58:43 -0700, Cartrivision1 , said the following in
> > rec.autos.driving...
> >
> >> And besides, how many of these enormous SUV's do you see that are
> >> actually being used to their full potential?
> >
> > None.
>
> My truck is used to its full potential. I even thought about buying a 2500
> instead of a 1500 because trailering is easier with the heavier vehicle.
> When I don't need the truck, it stays home.
>
> I always laugh about emptyheaded wannabe-gas-saver punks, who have no idea
> what a person is doing with their truck or SUV but have an unmanageable
> compulsion to run their mouths.
>

The sad truth whether you want to admit it or not is that most if not
the majority of large trucks/SUV's are usually being driven around
empty, snd/or not trailering anything. I have another term that I
coined for those trucks....that is "Vanity Vrucks". You know, the ones
with the shiny tool boxes, grille guards, no hitch, etc., and with not
a speck of dirt or scratch to be seen.

And yes, we all have a responsibility to our fellow citizens to not be
wasteful of our limited resources. Just cause you CAN drive around an
emplty Chevy Suburban does not make it right. I do not have to go back
to all of the reasons that SUV's are wasteful, I am sure we have all
heard them a million times. Not to mention what the greater demand for
fuel most likely does to gas prices.


CTV

Sorry about my godawful spelling on that last post. I wish Google had
a way of letting the author edit his/her posts....or is there?


CTV

Cartrivision1 wrote:
> C.H. wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:33:20 -0400, Paul wrote:
> >
> > > On 20 Jun 2005 12:58:43 -0700, Cartrivision1 , said the following in
> > > rec.autos.driving...
> > >
> > >> And besides, how many of these enormous SUV's do you see that are
> > >> actually being used to their full potential?
> > >
> > > None.
> >
> > My truck is used to its full potential. I even thought about buying a 2500
> > instead of a 1500 because trailering is easier with the heavier vehicle.
> > When I don't need the truck, it stays home.
> >
> > I always laugh about emptyheaded wannabe-gas-saver punks, who have no idea
> > what a person is doing with their truck or SUV but have an unmanageable
> > compulsion to run their mouths.
> >
>
> The sad truth whether you want to admit it or not is that most if not
> the majority of large trucks/SUV's are usually being driven around
> empty, snd/or not trailering anything. I have another term that I
> coined for those trucks....that is "Vanity Vrucks". You know, the ones
> with the shiny tool boxes, grille guards, no hitch, etc., and with not
> a speck of dirt or scratch to be seen.
>
> And yes, we all have a responsibility to our fellow citizens to not be
> wasteful of our limited resources. Just cause you CAN drive around an
> emplty Chevy Suburban does not make it right. I do not have to go back
> to all of the reasons that SUV's are wasteful, I am sure we have all
> heard them a million times. Not to mention what the greater demand for
> fuel most likely does to gas prices.
>
>
> CTV

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:05:53 -0700, Cartrivision1 wrote:

> Sorry about my godawful spelling on that last post. I wish Google had a
> way of letting the author edit his/her posts....or is there?

I didn't mind the spelling, I minded the narrow-minded world-view and your
extreme prejudices.

Chris

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:53:18 -0700, Cartrivision1 wrote:

> C.H. wrote:

>> My truck is used to its full potential. I even thought about buying a
>> 2500 instead of a 1500 because trailering is easier with the heavier
>> vehicle. When I don't need the truck, it stays home.
>>
>> I always laugh about emptyheaded wannabe-gas-saver punks, who have no
>> idea what a person is doing with their truck or SUV but have an
>> unmanageable compulsion to run their mouths.
>>
> The sad truth whether you want to admit it or not is that most if not the
> majority of large trucks/SUV's are usually being driven around empty,
> snd/or not trailering anything. I have another term that I coined for
> those trucks....that is "Vanity Vrucks". You know, the ones with the
> shiny tool boxes, grille guards, no hitch, etc., and with not a speck of
> dirt or scratch to be seen.

Yes, there are what you call 'vanity trucks' out there. No, you do not
know, whether a truck is a vanity truck or not. And no, insulting people
you know nothing about is not cool, its just stupid and juvenile.

It is one of the biggest problems of our time, that people in general
and specifically people like you are more prejudiced and try to force
their lifestyle and their limited world view onto others.

And people like you make the ones, who legitimately try to educate people
about SUV usage look stupid and stop the SUV crowd from taking them
seriously.

Chris

C.H. wrote:
>
> It is one of the biggest problems of our time, that people in general
> and specifically people like you are more prejudiced and try to force
> their lifestyle and their limited world view onto others.
>

Christian Huebner = irony.

E.P.

"Cartrivision1" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>
> C.H. wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:33:20 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>> > On 20 Jun 2005 12:58:43 -0700, Cartrivision1 , said the following in
>> > rec.autos.driving...
>> >
>> >> And besides, how many of these enormous SUV's do you see that are
>> >> actually being used to their full potential?
>> >
>> > None.
>>
>> My truck is used to its full potential. I even thought about buying a
>> 2500
>> instead of a 1500 because trailering is easier with the heavier vehicle.
>> When I don't need the truck, it stays home.
>>
>> I always laugh about emptyheaded wannabe-gas-saver punks, who have no
>> idea
>> what a person is doing with their truck or SUV but have an unmanageable
>> compulsion to run their mouths.
>>
>
> The sad truth whether you want to admit it or not is that most if not
> the majority of large trucks/SUV's are usually being driven around
> empty, snd/or not trailering anything. I have another term that I
> coined for those trucks....that is "Vanity Vrucks". You know, the ones
> with the shiny tool boxes, grille guards, no hitch, etc., and with not
> a speck of dirt or scratch to be seen.
>
> And yes, we all have a responsibility to our fellow citizens to not be
> wasteful of our limited resources. Just cause you CAN drive around an
> emplty Chevy Suburban does not make it right. I do not have to go back
> to all of the reasons that SUV's are wasteful, I am sure we have all
> heard them a million times. Not to mention what the greater demand for
> fuel most likely does to gas prices.

Do you attack people driving Lexus LS430s, Acura RLs, Honda S2000s, Toyota
Avalon's, Mitsubishi Eclipses, etc., etc., etc (all vehicles which mostly
ride around with unused seats). Actually, do you attack anyone driving
anything at all? After all driving any fuel powered vehicle is consuming a
limited resource. I suppose you can let people driving Insights or Priuses
off the hook, as long as all the seats are occupied.

Personally I am sick of hypocrites like the ones who started this thread
demonizing SUV owners. In most cases, the only difference between them and
the SUV drivers is the amount of fuel they waste. They have decided that
there personal level of excess is OK, but no more. Well they are full of
S&*T.

People buy SUVs for the same reason other people buy sports cars, and other
people buy vehicle with performance capabilities (and gas consumption) far
beyond their needs - they want them. Their stated reason are often illogical
or just made up. The proliferation of SUVs is a direct result of the CAFE
regulations. These regulations were stupid. If you really want to fix the
"SUV problem" encourage your representatives to increase taxes on imported
oil, ditch the stupid CAFE rules, and provide workable mass transit. If your
real goal is just save the gas so you can waste it in your Honda Accord,
shut up. You are just another gas wasting hypocrite.

Ed

You know and I know that most people bought SUV's when they were in
vogue because every other Suburban robot was buying one. Other
vehicles like you described might not be as fuel efficent as let's say
a Honda Civic, but those vehicles do not cause the same visual blight
on the scenery that large SUV's and pickup trucks do which is one of my
biggest gripes about the things.

And on top of that, most if not all do not certainly "need" a vehicle
which is bulkier/heavier than 2 "normal" sized sedans. Just because
people have the freedom to do something does not make it acceptable.
And yes, we ALL are suffering because of the extra fuel that these
lumbering behemoths use. In fact right after my last reply to this
thread I read a internet news article which blamed increased fuel use
for the rising prices. So we all lose.