air bag injuries due to propellant chemicals

linda wrote:

> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, linda wrote:
>>
>>
>>> i could say something about my two best friends being homosexual,
>>> and i could tell you about the two lesbians that are upstairs visiting
>>> my heterosexual son,
>>
>>
>>
>> ...but it wouldn't make any difference, 'cause they and we are all --
>> wait
>> for it! -- human beings. I do wonder, though, how your alleged best
>> friends feel about your vote for a government that considers them less
>> than equal.
>
>
>
> i asked them, and honestly, they have their wills in order, insurance
> beneficiaries are made out to each other, and thanks to our company,
> medical bene's. they prefer not to get married, they don't want to get
> married.. what does a piece of paper mean anyway? i have been married
> twice and that piece of paper was worthless both times.. a piece of
> paper does not demand commitment.... they love each other and are happy
> that they found each other.... they are Bush supporters too. they don't
> consider the "morality" majority... because as i believe and as they
> believe, only God can be the judge.. .and i believe that God (regardless
> of what the bible says), MY GOD sees my best friends as human beings he
> created

But of course you think the Bible contradicts that. You're wrong. I
get tired of the misrepresentations.

, i cannot see them waking up one day and deciding to become
> homosexual and be treated badly, denied human rights, etc... i believe
> God created everyone the way they are... my best friends have a soul,
> are religious, and they have a caring and loving relationship with each
> other and their friends, and there is no way in HELL that MY GOD does
> not love them and would not welcome them in to His arms.. they are
> committed to each other and they are good to their friends and do no
> harm to anyone... in fact, i cannot say that about some of the hetero's
> i know...
>
> promise me, you won't start a thread on animals, i love my animals, cats
> (jaz, otis, bella, and dolly) and my dogs (Kali and Georgianna).....
>
> ok, Daniel?
>
> darn, just my luck, all the good men are homosexual (except for my
> significant other!!!!)....:-)
>
>
> lw

God loves the sinner but hates the sin. I know it's a cliché, but many
clichés are true. Don't blame God for people who misrepresent him.

Bill Putney
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Fine, just add the "non-US" prefix. There is no need to be so unpleasant,
just because you know a lot about your particular subject. I have no
problem to stand corrected if I make an error, and in this case my remarks
appear not to apply to US-standard air bags. Fine. Yes, I know that the
US-standard calls for deployment assuming unbelted persons, but I did not
think the result is leaking air bags.

The fact remains I am not totally wrong so you don't need to be arrogant.

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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
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>
> As usual, Dori, you are commenting without knowing what the hell you're
> talking about. You live in a country that has ECE-spec airbags, which have
> a much higher vehicle speed deployment threshold and are much smaller and
> slower, therefore far less capable of inflicting injury, because they are
> designed around the assumption of a BELTED occupant. In North America,
> airbags are legally required by Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 208 to be
> calibrated so as to "save" an UNBELTED 50th-percentile "male" dummy.
>
> DS

Fine, just add the "non-US" prefix. There is no need to be so unpleasant,
just because you know a lot about your particular subject. I have no
problem to stand corrected if I make an error, and in this case my remarks
appear not to apply to US-standard air bags. Fine. Yes, I know that the
US-standard calls for deployment assuming unbelted persons, but I did not
think the result is leaking air bags.

The fact remains I am not totally wrong so you don't need to be arrogant.

DAS
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
[...]
>
> As usual, Dori, you are commenting without knowing what the hell you're
> talking about. You live in a country that has ECE-spec airbags, which have
> a much higher vehicle speed deployment threshold and are much smaller and
> slower, therefore far less capable of inflicting injury, because they are
> designed around the assumption of a BELTED occupant. In North America,
> airbags are legally required by Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 208 to be
> calibrated so as to "save" an UNBELTED 50th-percentile "male" dummy.
>
> DS

Being stabbed in the chest? Death?

DAS
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"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
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>
> Against nothing at all? Why?

Being stabbed in the chest? Death?

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"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
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>
> Against nothing at all? Why?

Tip: Don't post your real address in correct form, or show it as the sender.

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fake addresses? A number will write out how to contact them in the body of
the address, e.g.

lwatkins at midsouth {dot} rr {dot} com.

Spiders are crawling everywhere. I have direct evidence from my own
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"linda" > wrote in message
...
> this does not deserve a reply. but i am sending one anyway.. if you have
> to resort to calling me names, then by all means feel free to.
> i have been called worse.. but do so in private )
> do not let these other individuals who are trying to find real information
> be subjected to your apparent ignorance and lack of intelligence to
> properly state your case without using vulgarity.
>
> linda watkins
>
>
> feel free to email me there and blast me on my private email. i can at
> least delete you on my private email.. and can report you also...
>
> linda
>
>
> deadbeat wrote:
>> If you are just researching this now, why are you condemning the airbags
>> already! Typical stupid **** who wants to complain, and sue the
>> manufacturers for having airbags. If you don't like them, take them out
>> of
>> the ****ing car!
>>
>> Probably related to the douche bag who sued Honda for not having an
>> airbag
>> in the car, before the were mandated.
>>
>> "linda" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf10/11590_web.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>i really have heard of people with major difficulites from the chemical
>>>hazards (Sodium Azide, Nitrogen, phosgene) associated with air bags.
>>>and if those "airbags are the cure" folks would kindly look at the link
>>>i provided above (Federal Register / Vol. 60,November 9, 1995 / Proposed
>>>Rules) you will see that they do not talk about any respiratory
>>>illnessess associated with the dangerous chemicals. Please also check
>>>http://dms.dot.gov/reports/ and do a simple search on air bags, and no
>>>where will you find any mention of respiratory illnesses associated with
>>>the chemical hazards. Please check your MSDS (Material Safety Data
>>>Sheet) for each of these chemicals and see if you think that "the cure
>>>hurts a few a little bit".. Just pray to whatever entity you pray to
>>>that you are never inflicted with this type of injury. I am assuming
>>>that some would prefer a closed casket rather than a respiratory illness
>>>to live with a long time...
>>>
>>>please forgive my harshness, but i am new at this and i am in the
>>>process of researching this and would appreciate information that is
>>>useful and not blatantly disregarding my honest approaches at trying to
>>>help ALL.
>>>
>>>linda
>>>
>>>Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Dan Gates wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
>>>>>that have to use it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Christ, here we go again with another true-believer airbag freak who
>>>>hasn't looked at the actual numbers, hasn't seen that statistically one
>>
>> is
>>
>>>>safer with a 3-point belt and NO airbag than one is with a 3-point belt
>>>>AND an airbag, but nevertheless he's absolutely sure that airbatgs are
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>"cure".
>>
>>

Tip: Don't post your real address in correct form, or show it as the sender.

This will attract lots of spam. Have you not noticed how many people use
fake addresses? A number will write out how to contact them in the body of
the address, e.g.

lwatkins at midsouth {dot} rr {dot} com.

Spiders are crawling everywhere. I have direct evidence from my own
experience when starting to post to NGs.

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"linda" > wrote in message
...
> this does not deserve a reply. but i am sending one anyway.. if you have
> to resort to calling me names, then by all means feel free to.
> i have been called worse.. but do so in private )
> do not let these other individuals who are trying to find real information
> be subjected to your apparent ignorance and lack of intelligence to
> properly state your case without using vulgarity.
>
> linda watkins
>
>
> feel free to email me there and blast me on my private email. i can at
> least delete you on my private email.. and can report you also...
>
> linda
>
>
> deadbeat wrote:
>> If you are just researching this now, why are you condemning the airbags
>> already! Typical stupid **** who wants to complain, and sue the
>> manufacturers for having airbags. If you don't like them, take them out
>> of
>> the ****ing car!
>>
>> Probably related to the douche bag who sued Honda for not having an
>> airbag
>> in the car, before the were mandated.
>>
>> "linda" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf10/11590_web.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>i really have heard of people with major difficulites from the chemical
>>>hazards (Sodium Azide, Nitrogen, phosgene) associated with air bags.
>>>and if those "airbags are the cure" folks would kindly look at the link
>>>i provided above (Federal Register / Vol. 60,November 9, 1995 / Proposed
>>>Rules) you will see that they do not talk about any respiratory
>>>illnessess associated with the dangerous chemicals. Please also check
>>>http://dms.dot.gov/reports/ and do a simple search on air bags, and no
>>>where will you find any mention of respiratory illnesses associated with
>>>the chemical hazards. Please check your MSDS (Material Safety Data
>>>Sheet) for each of these chemicals and see if you think that "the cure
>>>hurts a few a little bit".. Just pray to whatever entity you pray to
>>>that you are never inflicted with this type of injury. I am assuming
>>>that some would prefer a closed casket rather than a respiratory illness
>>>to live with a long time...
>>>
>>>please forgive my harshness, but i am new at this and i am in the
>>>process of researching this and would appreciate information that is
>>>useful and not blatantly disregarding my honest approaches at trying to
>>>help ALL.
>>>
>>>linda
>>>
>>>Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Dan Gates wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
>>>>>that have to use it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Christ, here we go again with another true-believer airbag freak who
>>>>hasn't looked at the actual numbers, hasn't seen that statistically one
>>
>> is
>>
>>>>safer with a 3-point belt and NO airbag than one is with a 3-point belt
>>>>AND an airbag, but nevertheless he's absolutely sure that airbatgs are
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>"cure".
>>
>>

It is extraordinary how many people don't want to put on seatbelts,
especially when they are in the back seat. They think they will be 'safe'.

Especially if I carry visitors from certain places overseas or am driving
abroad myself and I ask people to buckle up (having waited a bit to give 'em
time) I get the question whether it's a legal requirement.

And how children are treated, even in London. Bouncing about in the back
or, equally bad (or worse), being held by a woman (mother???) on the front
seat. Makes me want to scream or call the police or something....

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"linda" > wrote in message
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[...........]
> and you don't wear your seat belt. From that moment on, I NEVER GO
> ANYWHERE WITHOUT PUTTING ON MY SEATBELT and neither does my son.
>
> just a cute little excerpt from my life.. hope no one is offended...
>
> linda...
[...]

It is extraordinary how many people don't want to put on seatbelts,
especially when they are in the back seat. They think they will be 'safe'.

Especially if I carry visitors from certain places overseas or am driving
abroad myself and I ask people to buckle up (having waited a bit to give 'em
time) I get the question whether it's a legal requirement.

And how children are treated, even in London. Bouncing about in the back
or, equally bad (or worse), being held by a woman (mother???) on the front
seat. Makes me want to scream or call the police or something....

DAS
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"linda" > wrote in message
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[...........]
> and you don't wear your seat belt. From that moment on, I NEVER GO
> ANYWHERE WITHOUT PUTTING ON MY SEATBELT and neither does my son.
>
> just a cute little excerpt from my life.. hope no one is offended...
>
> linda...
[...]

I think I found an error, which we could debate.. :-)

"Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream,
lake, and reservoir in America today. "

"Almost"?

If a stream does not contain the stuff, is it still a stream...?...

DAS
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"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
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> Bill, you are a cruel, cruel *******. You know she's going to fall for
> this.
> I loved the site though, particularly the MSDS!
>
> Ted