"ENVIRONUST"

"Eeyore" > wrote in message
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> n5hsr wrote:
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>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Fred G. Mackey" wrote:
>> >
>> >> BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global
>> >> warming
>> >> exists.
>> >
>> > Increasing numbers of scientists in fact as they all gradually get
>> > annoyed
>> > with the rubbish that's currently being peddled.
>> >
>> > The bizarre thing is the 'global warming establishment' is now trying
>> > to
>> > muzzle their critics by applying wokplace / employment pressure and
>> > the
>> like. > If their case is so watertight, how come they're so frightened of
>> questions or
>> > debate ?
>>
>>
>> Same thing that the liberals are afraid of, so they have to muzzle
>> conservatives and the religious right. The Emperor has no clothes. . . .
>> And both the conservatives and the religious have noticed.
>
> There's no political distinction in Europe. Right, left and centre have
> all
> fallen for this hogwash.
>
> Religion doesn't play a role in it here.
>
> Graham
>

Yes, but over here in the States, the Left is trying to silence anybody to
the right of them. That includes most moderates. They've been trying since
Clinton took over in 1993. They're espeically upset since GW won in 2000
and 2004. And they're not happy about the "Contract with America" that took
their power away after the "Hillary Healthcare" disaster in 1994. They
think power is theirs by divine right and anyone arguing to the contrary
should go to the gulags. That is why they must never be allowed to have
power ever again. Look at the mess they've made in the 6 months since they
took back Congress. All sorts of BS, lots of heat, very little light.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Fred G. Mackey" > wrote in
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>
> BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global
> warming exists.
>


And there are still some people who believe the moon landings were faked.
It takes all kinds.

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Tegger

Eeyore > wrote in
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>
> n5hsr wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Fred G. Mackey" wrote:
>> >
>> >> BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global
>> >> warming exists.
>> >
>> > Increasing numbers of scientists in fact as they all gradually get
>> > annoyed with the rubbish that's currently being peddled.
>> >
>> > The bizarre thing is the 'global warming establishment' is now
>> > trying to muzzle their critics by applying wokplace / employment
>> > pressure and the
>> like. > If their case is so watertight, how come they're so
>> frightened of questions or
>> > debate ?
>>
>>
>> Same thing that the liberals are afraid of, so they have to muzzle
>> conservatives and the religious right. The Emperor has no clothes. .
>> . . And both the conservatives and the religious have noticed.
>
> There's no political distinction in Europe. Right, left and centre
> have all fallen for this hogwash.
>
> Religion doesn't play a role in it here.
>


The "man-made global warming" crowd is entirely religious. The entire
movement is ecclesiastical in nature, and its church is Mother Nature.


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Tegger

"Eeyore" > wrote in message
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>
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> "Fred G. Mackey" wrote:
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>> BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global warming
>> exists.
>
> Increasing numbers of scientists in fact as they all gradually get annoyed
> with
> the rubbish that's currently being peddled.
>
> The bizarre thing is the 'global warming establishment' is now trying to
> muzzle
> their critics by applying wokplace / employment pressure and the like. If
> their
> case is so watertight, how come they're so frightened of questions or
> debate ?
>
> Graham
>
>


I think you ignored part of what Fred said because it's not exciting.

The same changes that will reduce pollution (a good idea that nobody
disagrees with) may come with a bonus, ***IF*** it turns out that our
burning of fossil fuels contributes to global warming.

Get it?

Work to fix a problem that everyone agrees is a problem, and maybe you get a
bonus in terms of minimizing another problem. Of course, this sentence is
only true for people who acknowledge that some places have nasty air quality
problems.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in
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> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Fred G. Mackey" wrote:
>>
>>> BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global
>>> warming exists.
>>
>> Increasing numbers of scientists in fact as they all gradually get
>> annoyed with
>> the rubbish that's currently being peddled.
>>
>> The bizarre thing is the 'global warming establishment' is now trying
>> to muzzle
>> their critics by applying wokplace / employment pressure and the
>> like. If their
>> case is so watertight, how come they're so frightened of questions
>> or debate ?
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>
>
> I think you ignored part of what Fred said because it's not exciting.
>
> The same changes that will reduce pollution (a good idea that nobody
> disagrees with) may come with a bonus, ***IF*** it turns out that our
> burning of fossil fuels contributes to global warming.
>



So then I would like to put you in jail, permamently. Because you
***MIGHT*** one day commit murder.

Get it?


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Tegger

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in
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> Of course, this
> sentence is only true for people who acknowledge that some places have
> nasty air quality problems.
>
>
>



EPA studies show the air to be 57% cleaner now than it was in 1970. And
that's in absolute terms, not relative ones.


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Tegger

"Tegger" > wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in
> news >
>> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fred G. Mackey" wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global
>>>> warming exists.
>>>
>>> Increasing numbers of scientists in fact as they all gradually get
>>> annoyed with
>>> the rubbish that's currently being peddled.
>>>
>>> The bizarre thing is the 'global warming establishment' is now trying
>>> to muzzle
>>> their critics by applying wokplace / employment pressure and the
>>> like. If their
>>> case is so watertight, how come they're so frightened of questions
>>> or debate ?
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think you ignored part of what Fred said because it's not exciting.
>>
>> The same changes that will reduce pollution (a good idea that nobody
>> disagrees with) may come with a bonus, ***IF*** it turns out that our
>> burning of fossil fuels contributes to global warming.
>>
>
>
>
> So then I would like to put you in jail, permamently. Because you
> ***MIGHT*** one day commit murder.
>
> Get it?
> Tegger


Bad analogy. All sentient beings agree that smog is bad, and the various
ways of reducing it have been 100% accepted for many years.

Here's another analogy: Your doctor says if you don't lose weight, you've
got a good chance of having a fatal heart attack within the coming year.
Bonus: It might also help with your knee problems.

Wanna put your doctor in jail, too?

"Tegger" > wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in
> news >
>> Of course, this
>> sentence is only true for people who acknowledge that some places have
>> nasty air quality problems.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> EPA studies show the air to be 57% cleaner now than it was in 1970. And
> that's in absolute terms, not relative ones.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>

So, continuing to improve it is a bad idea?

"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
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> "n5hsr" > said in rec.autos.driving:
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>>Yes, but over here in the States, the Left is trying to silence
>>anybody to
>>the right of them. That includes most moderates.
>
> So there IS a Liberal Agenda.

Yes, there are liberal agendaS, and conservative agendas, and a
moderate agendas, and all sorts of radical agendas, and
environmentalist agendas, and big oil agendas, and a ........

Ed

"C. E. White" > wrote in message
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> "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
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>> "n5hsr" > said in rec.autos.driving:
>>
>>>Yes, but over here in the States, the Left is trying to silence anybody
>>>to
>>>the right of them. That includes most moderates.
>>
>> So there IS a Liberal Agenda.
>
> Yes, there are liberal agendaS, and conservative agendas, and a moderate
> agendas, and all sorts of radical agendas, and environmentalist agendas,
> and big oil agendas, and a ........
>
> Ed
>

I'm gonna have lunch in about an hour. It's an agenda.